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Offline Chuck in Indiana

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Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« on: December 17, 2017, 07:39:06 PM »
The last time we were out in LA, my friend LAKevin asked me if Iwanted a Skorpion parts bike. Does Raggedy Anne have cotton boobs?  :grin:

He wanted the motor for his MZ dirt bike, so we demotored the Skorpion today.
2017-12-17_05-29-15 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr
Filled up Dorcia's kid's Prius pretty well.. :smiley:
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Kind of hated to strip it.. it is an 8000 mile bike..but it is too good to pass up. My MZ was put together from a pile, and this has all the original parts. :thumb:
Thanks, Kevin!
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 11:13:19 PM »
MZ dirtbike... Baghira??? get any pics of that? :drool:
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 04:52:30 AM »
Didn't those have Yamaha engines, or am I thinking of something else?  If it is a Yamaha I wouldn't think finding a replacement would be that expensive if you're patient.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 09:19:16 AM »
MZ dirtbike... Baghira??? get any pics of that? :drool:

Yeah it's a Baggy, and a nice one at that. Sorry, didn't take any pix of the bikes he has.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 09:26:20 AM »
Didn't those have Yamaha engines, or am I thinking of something else?  If it is a Yamaha I wouldn't think finding a replacement would be that expensive if you're patient.

The engine is built by Yamaha. It was used in their Tenere.. not imported here. I built my Skorpion from a pile.. many missing parts that I had to make or source from Yurp. This one has all those pieces plus I'll have spares.  :thumb:
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 09:49:15 AM »
Worked on one of those not to long ago. Kind of an interesting bike.

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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 09:51:53 AM »
early scorpions ( or may be just the prototypes?) had 600 cc rotax engines,
a 600 cc rotax is light and  pretty easy to tune ,
 it is a pretty brilliant engine, producing raw uncivilised power.
it just needs a lightweight sporty chassis. i can see a nice special in your pile of parts...... :thumb:

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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 11:22:10 AM »
early scorpions ( or may be just the prototypes?) had 600 cc rotax engines,
a 600 cc rotax is light and  pretty easy to tune ,
 it is a pretty brilliant engine, producing raw uncivilised power.
it just needs a lightweight sporty chassis. i can see a nice special in your pile of parts...... :thumb:
It's a lightweight sporty chassis all right. I'll have a frame subframe forks and wheels if you want them free
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 01:52:01 PM »
I demoed some of those bikes at Daytona in the late 90's or early 2000's when MZ had demo rides at bike week.  Wish they were still around. One of the most fun bikes I have ever drven.

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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2017, 04:37:20 PM »
It's a lightweight sporty chassis all right. I'll have a frame subframe forks and wheels if you want them free

not very practical to send MZ parts all over the globe,  i live 500 miles from where the factory used to be!
never understood why MZ fitted that porkey yamaha engine, imho the chassis deserved better...




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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2017, 05:24:57 PM »
early scorpions ( or may be just the prototypes?) had 600 cc rotax engines,
a 600 cc rotax is light and  pretty easy to tune ,
 it is a pretty brilliant engine, producing raw uncivilised power.
it just needs a lightweight sporty chassis. i can see a nice special in your pile of parts...... :thumb:

Skorpions have the 660cc Yamaha.  Earlier MuZs had the 500 Rotax. 

Chuck:  I'm needing a center stand spring for my Skorp.  Want to sell yours?  If not, can you give me a length?

Thanks,  Fish
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2017, 08:10:03 PM »
John, I have a PM from someone that might want the bones. If that falls through, I'll send whatever you need.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 12:39:19 AM »
The last time we were out in LA, my friend LAKevin asked me if Iwanted a Skorpion parts bike.

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Kind of hated to strip it.. it is an 8000 mile bike..but it is too good to pass up. My MZ was put together from a pile, and this has all the original parts. :thumb:
Thanks, Kevin!

No prob, Chuck. Good luck with it and hope to see your bike with some new bits.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 02:10:55 AM »
I have a 2000 MuZ 660 Tour and Chuck & my MuZs met each other a few years ago  the last @ MGNOC National in Oregon.  I rode mine there Arizona and Chuck trailered his there.  Chuck & I didn't spend any time conversing but later I saw a pic of our bikes together he took.  I saw him puttering around he grounds some but that was it.  My Tour is the best handling bike I have ever owned so far for corner carving and I've ridden it longer on 1 day (800 miles) than any other bike I've ever owned.  With it's 5 gal. tank it's good for 200 miles between fillups the way I ride most the time.  The rear foot peg locations are adjustable some for your preferences.

The bike has a Yamaha 5 valves which are adjustible just like on a Guzzi, 2 carb, SOHC, H20 cooled motor and is rated @ 48 hp.  My 750 Breva is also rated @ 48 hp and is faster in acceleration than the Tour but the Tour in tight corners (45 mph) is far faster than my Breva if it's rider is up to it.

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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2017, 04:54:34 AM »
John, I have a PM from someone that might want the bones. If that falls through, I'll send whatever you need.

No worries, Chuck.  I appreciate the offer. 

Wayne:  The Skorps are pretty amazing.  I'm sure some modern bikes handle better, but mine is also the best-handling machine I've ever been on.  Surprisingly good at distance work, too.  And you can't beat screw and locknut valve adjustments.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2017, 11:30:37 AM »
John, the guy that wanted it is in Cincinnati. That might make for a pretty long trip to pick up a frame  :smiley:
If no one else wants it, I'll get the springs and hardware to you.
As far as handling goes.. it's very good. I'll find out this week how good. When I originally put it together, I put Shinko Podiums on it to see what I had. They seemed er.. ok.. until I brought it out to SoCal. I was never comfortable on them in the twisties, so yesterday Todd at Guzzi Tech put a set of Conti Sport Attacks on for me.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2017, 05:32:17 PM »
Ok, Fish. if this is what you want..PM me your snail mail address and I'll get it out to you eventually. :smiley:
2017-12-19_03-13-43 by Charles Stottlemyer, on Flickr

As a manufacturer (retired) Ihave to admire the frame. Apparently hydro formed aluminum. Very light and stiff. Sure is a shame to dumpster it..<shrug>
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 06:29:49 PM »
 Looks like a good supply of high quality aluminium there Chuckie .

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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 06:32:09 PM »
Thanks Chuck!
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2017, 07:40:18 PM »
Wasn't someone on the Cheese board looking for a set of yokes for theirs as they'd bust?

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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2017, 08:27:58 PM »
That was me, Pete.  Needed the lower triple tree as mine cracked.  I found one from Germany.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2017, 08:58:23 PM »
Hmmmm. Maybe I shouldn't throw these away..
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2017, 05:48:42 AM »
When I posted on the MZ forum asking if anyone else had experienced a cracked triple, no one spoke up.  However, finding a new one was a real chore:  plenty of uppers around but no lowers.

So. . . yeah, you might want to hold onto those.  :)

Mine may have been assembled incorrectly.  Who knows?  I'm going to disassemble it again in the spring just to double check.  Incidentally,  it had plenty of vibration before a friend noticed the cracks; after replacing the lower triple-- vibration is minimal.  In fact, vibration isn't a concern at all now even though many people cautioned me that Skorps vibrate like hell and "they all do that".  If I ever buy another, I will immediately and closely inspect the triples.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2017, 01:12:10 PM »
I always loved the looks of that frame. Kind of like the one on the Griso or big Brevas.

Make up a subframe and built an awesome smallblock Guzzi chuck. ;)


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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2017, 05:01:55 PM »
I always loved the looks of that frame. Kind of like the one on the Griso or big Brevas.

Make up a subframe and built an awesome smallblock Guzzi chuck. ;)

I've mentioned many times that a motorcycle is all about the motor to me. :smiley: If this bike had a Guzzi engine, I'd love it.
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2017, 05:09:21 PM »
Woo hoo! Just like finding a factory bagged unobtinium part.. for free.  :smiley:
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2017, 06:03:25 PM »
I can't tell-- what is it, Chuck?
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2017, 07:13:58 PM »
Its the rubber part that guards the swingarm from the depredations of the chain. The DPO no doubt never bothered to maintain / lube / adjust the chain, and most of the original part was toast, along with several others.  :smiley:
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2017, 07:16:25 PM »
Yesterday, Iwas riding in the mountains, and felt that unmistakable click of a failing seal in the rear master cylinder. Without this spare bike, Iwould have been done riding for this trip  Carefully swapped master cylinders, and didn't even have to bleed it.  :thumb: Some days, you *do* get the bear.. :smiley:
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Re: Free MZ ngc whatsoever
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2017, 07:37:58 PM »
Merry Christmas from the serendipity fairy.
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