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Offline redrider90

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Is this gun stock safe?
« on: May 27, 2018, 03:48:34 PM »
This is an old 16 gauge with a poly choke that I have not shot in 20 years. It's been in the closet kept dry. It chambers the shells fine and ejects them fine but I have not shot it. I used to hunt game with it and only have field game shells for it. Recently a ground hog had a litter of 3 pups. The other day I saw them out in the garden. My bird dog will chase them away but does not have a killer instinct like my past border collies. So I pulled the gun out and was going to get some  buck # 4 buck shot shells for it. Then I noticed the stock had slight cracks in the stock where it attaches to the rear of the gun.
I've got some nice thin industrial super glue that I managed to fill the cracks but then I though better of it. So I am posting it and asking if you gun folks think this can handle a buck shot or even field shot without cracking more or worse just coming apart in my face.
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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2018, 04:00:40 PM »
1st off the wood will not "blow up" in you face. Worse case scenario is the stock catastrophically fails the receiver and it will separate and if you don't catch it one or both pieces will fall to the ground. Would I shoot it as it? Yes but only limited. Depending on what the gun is getting it fixed or at least staking the crack, replacing the stock or wrapping in Gorilla tape are all options. Anything is better than nothing.

A word on buck shot and/or high brass shells. The powder charge/type and wad used are what create recoil. A once of lead or an once of feathers is still an ounce. High brass shells are a throw back from the time when shells were loaded with black powder. Since more powerful shell take more powder the brass has to be higher to keep from burning through the paper hull.  With modern plastic shells and smokeless powder I can reload a shell hotter than any "high brass" with no ill effect. But people like to see high brass shells thinking they are more powerful when in reality you need to read the box and get the info off it like FPS, and shot capacity.   
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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2018, 04:23:04 PM »
You speak of wrapping it in gorilla glue tape. I have about 12 different kinds of composite materials in my lab. One particular plastic I have is 0.90" thick woven fiberglass (fibers are woven perpendicular to each other and it is impregnated with polypropylene. I can cut out a pattern and heat this to 350º and wrap it around the gun stock. When I wrap it around the stock at that temperature it will stick to itself and is extremely strong. The plastics basically welds to itself and the fiberglass weave when it bends and wraps around the stock becomes even stronger. I could cut the pattern so using the contours of the stock the plastic would not move. Or I could cut the short pattern so it wraps at the end of the stock where it meets the metal and then super glue the plastic to the stock. This material is extraordinary strong.
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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2018, 04:29:48 PM »
You speak of wrapping it in gorilla glue tape. I have about 12 different kinds of composite materials in my lab. One particular plastic I have is 0.90" thick woven fiberglass (fibers are woven perpendicular to each other and it is impregnated with polypropylene. I can cut out a pattern and heat this to 350� and wrap it around the gun stock. When I wrap it around the stock at that temperature it will stick to itself and is extremely strong. The plastics basically welds to itself and the fiberglass weave when it bends and wraps around the stock becomes even stronger. I could cut the pattern so using the contours of the stock the plastic would not move. Or I could cut the short pattern so it wraps at the end of the stock where it meets the metal and then super glue the plastic to the stock. This material is extraordinary strong.


What gun are we dealing with 1st. If it a $70 Stevens I say break out the bondo, gel coat hammer nails wire coat hanger and have at it. But if its worth something be the old bull and walk down to the heard.
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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2018, 04:49:04 PM »
From what small section I could see of it let me make an educated guess, model 37 Ithaca pump?

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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2018, 04:52:13 PM »
It's not an expensive gun.  western field xnh-560-8a 16 gauge
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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2018, 05:02:06 PM »
From what small section I could see of it let me make an educated guess, model 37 Ithaca pump?

I found some photos of an Ithaca 37 that look just like mine at least the stock and the rear of the gun. So I would say you have a good eye.
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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2018, 05:02:45 PM »
It's not an expensive gun.  western field xnh-560-8a 16 gauge

I'd tape it and shoot it.  Even a "catastrophic" failure isn't going to hurt much ....

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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2018, 05:27:35 PM »
I found some photos of an Ithaca 37 that look just like mine at least the stock and the rear of the gun. So I would say you have a good eye.
Yea Red if I could have seen the whole trigger guard and nothing else I could definitely identify a model 37. :)


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Re: Is this gun stock safe?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2018, 08:29:55 PM »
I have an old 16 gauge Stevens that was horrible messed up like that. I pried the cracks open a little bit and shoved JB Weld in everywhere I could. It works really well on wood, and the gun has never suffered for it, tho I don't fire it often.
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