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Starter trouble
« on: July 23, 2018, 08:01:27 AM »
My wife's 02 Stone that I put together from salvage has been reliable. I caused a starter problem by making a tab to keep the tank bag from hitting the starter button. I made it out of aluminum that bent in and pushed on the button. She didn't notice until the starter leaked smoke and stunk. She called me, I was on airport shuttle duty and I met her at home and put on a spare starter so she was able to catch up with her Women on Wheels friends. About three hours later she called again and the starter wouldn't turn it over so I went and got her with a trailer, she was only fifteen miles from home at that point. Last night I checked battery voltage, 12.8. I expect there is some heat damaged wireing and relay. So my plan is to inspect all that, and put on a new starter relay. I'm also going to install another relay so the factory wireing only has to activate the new relay which will run the solenoid from the battery. I spose I better pull the starter and peek at the ring gear too. My question is does anyone have any tips or suggestions?
« Last Edit: July 23, 2018, 08:13:30 AM by John A »
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2018, 08:40:38 AM »
 You lost all the smoke!  Just put some more smoke back in and it will work again.
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 09:22:18 AM »
When Guzzi started using the metal switches they would run the starter when wet, I fixed a few by making waterproof.
My 1st Sp did the same thing w/tank bag, was better on LM3, quit using one 10yrs ago.
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 09:30:07 AM »
You lost all the smoke!  Just put some more smoke back in and it will work again.


Can I make my own smoke or do I need the extry special store bought smoke for starters?
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2018, 09:49:56 AM »
So what does it do now when you try to start it.
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2018, 11:10:39 AM »
The bike does what its supposed to, the spare starter I put on appears to have a bad [new] solenoid so I ordered a new starter from Euromotoelectrics. I'll take the starters apart and build up one to set on the shelf. The ring gear looks like it'll last so aside from a burnt up starter theres no damage.
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2018, 03:58:28 PM »
appears to have a bad [new] solenoid 
Check it's not out by 180° so the input terminal is wired to the armature, don't ask.
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2018, 06:00:59 PM »
Check it's not out by 180� so the input terminal is wired to the armature, don't ask.


Thanks Roy, it never would have occurred to me that it was even a possibility !
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Re: Starter trouble
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2018, 06:29:57 PM »
speaking of starters. I ordered one and found that I likely don't need it. 

I paid $67 for it.  It looks very nice.
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