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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: LowRyter on April 26, 2020, 03:01:09 PM
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I can't find the original thread but I got mine today:
Got my jacket. The size runs true, no need to get a larger size. I'd say it's the highest quality motorcycle apparel I've ever owned. Top quality. Three quarter length. Really heavy liner, almost a jacket in itself. Armor installed. Even comes with its own hanger and garment bag cover.
The nits, are no vents, so it might be winter only? It's got those silly stars and left hand zipper. I can't wait to try it on the road.
John L
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Good to know, I ordered a large so I am now confident that the size will be OK for me. Will see how warm it gets in the Summer. I kinda like the stars, one of the reasons I got one.
Tony
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Got mine as well this week! Seems that this will be the new common outfit for our future rallies!
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You "fellas" will look like a couple of twinkies :grin:
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You "fellas" will look like a couple of twinkies :grin:
Designer detailing from Valentino fashion house. (true)
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Heck, I got $10 discount. Delivered and taxes was $98!
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Can someone post a site where they can be seen?
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https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/italian-police-surplus-carabinieri-waterproof-motorcycle-jacket-new?a=2184821
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https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/italian-police-surplus-carabinieri-waterproof-motorcycle-jacket-new?a=2184821
The best part is that in the Sportsman's Guide advertisement, there's a V7 in the background. But it doesn't appear to be a police bike.
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I almost ordered the Italian police stuff...but it's no fun in isolation. Maybe for the national next year in New Hampster
Search "Italian police" and you get all the extras for the coat...white leather parade dress belts, holsters, gloves....
Handcuff holsters anyone?..... :popcorn:
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Is there any reflectivity or emblems on the back?
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https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/italian-police-surplus-carabinieri-waterproof-motorcycle-jacket-new?a=2184821
Mmm. Might go good with my German Motorcycle Police gauntlet gloves bought from sportsmansguide 10 years ago. :thumb:
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You "fellas" will look like a couple of twinkies :grin:
With that star on the collar, I'll have to start calling LowRyter "General John". When we ride together, he can lead us into battling the twisties on his mighty Ducati! I'll try not to make him wait on me too much. :bike-037:
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Is there any reflectivity or emblems on the back?
Not that I noticed.
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A bunch of 2 starred Generals strutting around the camp fire barking orders!
Make that marshmallow softer, grill me a S'more faster young whippersnapper!
The jacket is nice quality, very heavy (at least with the sweater inside it), seems to be well built.
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I had to test ride it. Low 70s here and 20 mph wind, would guess more like 30+.
I took the liner out and did not snap the zipper fly. There are pass throughs in the two front pockets, I have no idea if they are vents or what the purpose is. Anyway, I found the jacket comfortable and breathable, just about perfect for the weather. In fact it seemed so breezy that I am wondering if it really is waterproof. I still wouldn't ride it in 90 degree weather but I think it's close to the same as my other (vented) textile jacket. Buffeting was good. I did about 80+ into that strong headwind and it was totally acceptable, then I noted that I hadn't cinched the sleeves down, so perhaps it's even better?
This is my first 3/4 riding jacket and could feel the back armor go all the way to my lower back. I noticed the armor is much stiffer than the foam rubber stuff in my other jackets.
One note on the sizing, the jackets run standard size, so they are larger than the normal motorcycle jacket. I usually wear a large tshirt, XL jacket and 2X motorcycle jacket. This 2x has plenty of room, I could have probably gotten by with an XL. But I was able to cinch it with internal cords, in fact I got them a little tight and loosened them.
Nothing bad to say about it other than the little stars on the collar, otherwise it's neat, well made and functional. I could see this being a $400 jacket.
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I almost ordered the Italian police stuff...but it's no fun in isolation. Maybe for the national next year in New Hampster
Search "Italian police" and you get all the extras for the coat...white leather parade dress belts, holsters, gloves....
Handcuff holsters anyone?..... :popcorn:
Whoa, NATIONAL next year in New Hampster again? Spill the beans!
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I don't have access to a sewing machine right now (it's at work) but I'm hoping to remove the flappy bit of the collar and convert mine into a mandarin collar. That will also take care of the stars on the collar that make me feel like a military wannabe or a drum majorette. :)
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I don't have access to a sewing machine right now (it's at work) but I'm hoping to remove the flappy bit of the collar and convert mine into a mandarin collar. That will also take care of the stars on the collar that make me feel like a military wannabe or a drum majorette. :)
magic marker?
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Whoa, NATIONAL next year in New Hampster again? Spill the beans!
I've known about it for a while...where you been?? :laugh: :laugh:
Same place as 2015.
Gerry
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magic marker?
The stars are metal, and attached to little squares of black cloth. Couple minutes with Mrs. larrys' seam ripper made short work of 'em. I've been wearing the liner as a jacket. Good to the low 40's F.
Be well,
Larry
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Today I took it out in 84 degree muggy windy weather. Jacket was still acceptable, perhaps getting the larger size might help vent. I did feel some heat on the sleeves in direct sunlight but still acceptable. Normally I'd be wearing mesh today anyway. I think it's my "go to" jacket now.
Regarding those stars, well, I am undecided about cutting them off. When I wear my silver helmet with a "steal your face emblem" I can tell folks it's a "Grateful Dead US Blues Jacket"
At a Guzzi Rally I can say it's "Guzzi Squadron Commander Jacket". It's a "Road General Jacket".
Meeting Harley guys I can say it's "The Uncle Sam Jacket (Patriot Commemorative Special Edition with Deluxe Piping and Dynamic Protection Jacket)". Or perhaps the "Capt America Jacket (Easy Rider 50th Anniversary Wyatt Edition Jacket with Deluxe Piping and Dynamic Protection)".
It's a "Steve McQueen 1964 ISDT Commemorative American Team Jacket".
I am sure there all kinds of lies and tall stories that might motivate someone to keep the jacket unaltered. And I haven't even considered sports teams.
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A couple of other issues. I found there are actually two back armors, one is a kidney belt and can be removed from the lower panel and strapped on.
I was not able to find the hood. I see snaps on the back of the jacket but I couldn't find it packed in the jacket or in the box. Don't know where else to look. I assume I didn't get it.
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I had to test ride it. Low 70s here and 20 mph wind, would guess more like 30+.
Nothing bad to say about it other than the little stars on the collar, otherwise it's neat, well made and functional. I could see this being a $400 jacket.
Can you share your comments on the sizing?
Concerned that it may be a true "Italian cut", which could be problematic for some of us big-boned specimens.
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Can you share your comments on the sizing?
Concerned that it may be a true "Italian cut", which could be problematic for some of us big-boned specimens.
As I said earlier, they run large for motorcycle jackets and are normal size. Plenty of room. I purchased a 2X like most riding jackets and would be fine with XL.
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A couple of other issues. I found there are actually two back armors, one is a kidney belt and can be removed from the lower panel and strapped on.
I was not able to find the hood. I see snaps on the back of the jacket but I couldn't find it packed in the jacket or in the box. Don't know where else to look. I assume I didn't get it.
I found the hood in a pouch on the inside of the back of the jacket. Have to move the liner out of the way to get to it.
Larry
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I found the hood in a pouch on the inside of the back of the jacket. Have to move the liner out of the way to get to it.
Larry
Thanks, I thought it was another back protector.
Is there a way to mount the back protector in the jacket pouch instead of wearing it?
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I wonder if a large would fit me well enough?
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I rode with mine for the first time today, and concur that this is an excellent jacket, especially at the price SG is asking. I was concerned about the collar flapping around, but discovered that there is a little hidden Velcro strap that ties both halves of the collar together. The jacket breathes well, but does appear to be waterproof. I rode in a light drizzle, and the water just beaded up and ran off. I don't know how it would fare in a real downpour, but I don't usually ride if the weather is that bad. I liked it so much I immediately ordered a spare.
Personally, I like the collar with the stars. But then again, one of my favorite winter coats is a Soviet naval captain's wool greatcoat that I found at a Salvation Army store.
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No offense to anyone who has bought these but they are BUTT UGLY 😂
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No offense to anyone who has bought these but they are BUTT UGLY 😂
Just take the stars of the collar and it's a dark blue with red piping 3/4 jacket.
The details are better appointed than most gear attributable to police specification and Valentino design house.
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It looks like they raised the price after the onslaught of orders. Now $110.99 + TT&L.
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No offense to anyone who has bought these but they are BUTT UGLY 😂
Is that because US Police Depts disapprove of Italian Carabinieri outfits? :thumb: :thumb:
Isn't the outfit supposed to be more functional than anything else? In general, I'd venture to say Italian fashion is usually more "stylish" than US fashion, but then this thread will turn into a political discussion, which it's not meant to be about...ahem, ahem.
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I finally took a ride while wearing mine. Not bad. The only real flapping about I experienced was the upper arm (bicep) area. The collar didn't flap around at all. I like the two way zipper so I can unzip the bottom a little bit for comfort. And it's a high quality zipper.
I'm a bit heat sensitive so I won't wear this in any weather over 70 and sunny-- it's hot, doesn't seem breathable, and doesn't vent well.
I'm not sure what the pass through slots are for above the bottom pockets- I can't fit my hand through there- but it's nice to see the slots are edged with a durable material like leather or vinyl. It's a thoughtful high quality touch. And it's nice to see that the pockets have zippers and flaps. They'll be waterproof and secure.
All in all, it's a nice jacket that I will reserve for colder, wetter, days. Worth the money. As for being ugly-- well, NCDan ain't entirely wrong. :wink:
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It looks like they raised the price after the onslaught of orders. Now $110.99 + TT&L.
Sportsman's Guide has price fluctuations all the time. My dad paid $140 for his jacket around Thanksgiving last year when they were for sale for $99 a few days before. I bought one in January and the price was back down to $99.
If you want one and don't like the price just wait a while and keep checking back every few days or so and buy when the price goes back down.
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Just take the stars of the collar and it's a dark blue with red piping 3/4 jacket.
The details are better appointed than most gear attributable to police specification and Valentino design house.
Ok 👍🤔
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I ordered one but it's too restrictive in the shoulders for me so back it goes! I will say the return policy was easy and fast! I'll keep using my good old yeller Kilimanjaro jacket with about 7 years of funk on it. You don't get that kinda stank overnight! Should have known better, if it works DON'T FIX IT!!
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Sportsman's Guide has price fluctuations all the time. My dad paid $140 for his jacket around Thanksgiving last year when they were for sale for $99 a few days before. I bought one in January and the price was back down to $99.
If you want one and don't like the price just wait a while and keep checking back every few days or so and buy when the price goes back down.
Thanks, I really wanted to look like the cool kids.
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I ordered one but it's too restrictive in the shoulders for me so back it goes! I will say the return policy was easy and fast! I'll keep using my good old yeller Kilimanjaro jacket with about 7 years of funk on it. You don't get that kinda stank overnight! Should have known better, if it works DON'T FIX IT!!
I laundered my mesh gear in a hotel bathtub in Utah and the amount of sand left in the tub was surprising. I thought I was only removing bug stains and odor.
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I'll keep using my good old yeller Kilimanjaro jacket with about 7 years of funk on it. You don't get that kinda stank overnight! Should have known better, if it works DON'T FIX IT!!
On those old jackets ... I have a Kilimanjaro jacket with 7 years worth of road grime too ... it's in great shape considering BUT all the velcro is bad and some of the fasteners don't work.
Kind of like a modern car - you don't get rid of them because the motor or transmission failed, it's because the gauges quit working, the window handles fell off, and the headliner fell out ....
Lannis
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Well I'm not too happy with the vendor, Sportsman Guide. I just see they charged me $50 today on my paypal account to become a member. I don't recall ever signing up for it. It seems like a scam since it came a month after purchase. Apparently paypal won't help but they'll put a stop to future payments to SG.
I can only guess I checked the wrong box and missed the fine print.
I'll let the folks here know so that you might get a chance to prevent them from scamming you too.
Of course, you can't talk to a human on the phone at paypal or SG since they are closed due to the virus. It makes me wonder how secure paypal is. I might call the credit card company to stop payment. $50, not enough to make a deal over but enough to piss me off.
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Not a scam...the pricing at the time gave two options....member pricing or non member pricing where it said that membership would be charged in 30 days but you could cancel before that.
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No offense to anyone who has bought these but they are BUTT UGLY 😂
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What was it that Paul Simon sang? "One man's ceiling is another man's floor".
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Well I'm not too happy with the vendor, Sportsman Guide. I just see they charged me $50 today on my paypal account to become a member. I don't recall ever signing up for it. It seems like a scam since it came a month after purchase. Apparently paypal won't help but they'll put a stop to future payments to SG.
I can only guess I checked the wrong box and missed the fine print.
I'll let the folks here know so that you might get a chance to prevent them from scamming you too.
Of course, you can't talk to a human on the phone at paypal or SG since they are closed due to the virus. It makes me wonder how secure paypal is. I might call the credit card company to stop payment. $50, not enough to make a deal over but enough to piss me off.
John,
Go here https://www.sportsmansguide.com/club/managemembership and cancel your membership. They should refund you fully. If you have ordered anything after the 30 days and received a membership discount, you will owe that amount (the membership discount) back to them. They seem to be a stand-up company.
Nick
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Well I'm not too happy with the vendor, Sportsman Guide. I just see they charged me $50 today on my paypal account to become a member. I don't recall ever signing up for it. It seems like a scam since it came a month after purchase. Apparently paypal won't help but they'll put a stop to future payments to SG.
I can only guess I checked the wrong box and missed the fine print.
I'll let the folks here know so that you might get a chance to prevent them from scamming you too.
Of course, you can't talk to a human on the phone at paypal or SG since they are closed due to the virus. It makes me wonder how secure paypal is. I might call the credit card company to stop payment. $50, not enough to make a deal over but enough to piss me off.
Happened to me,too. I emailed them, told them I did not authorize them to sign me up for their buyers club. They responded, apologized, and refunded my card. Kinda sneaky, though. I wonder how often they do that and get away with it?
Larry
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Hmmmm, not sure what happened in your cases.... but when I looked at this, they had one price ($89) if you joined up/already were a member, and another price ($99) for non-members (I think I have these prices right, it may have been $99/$109-- they change the offer frequently). Perhaps you clicked on the lower price? It seemed pretty clear to me what they were doing.
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Thanks for the info guys. I knew it had to be "my fault". Even worse, it wasn't clear what the billing was even about. Not a clear description other than a charge. They don't answer the phone due to CV.
I'll go their website and try to straighten it out. I did get an e-mail from them and wrote them back. I can tell you, I'll never purchase anything from them again. And I'll try any other option before I use my paypal account again (I know I can't really cancel it).
I hate tricky stuff and going through a hassle. It's only $50.
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Hmmmm, not sure what happened in your cases.... but when I looked at this, they had one price ($89) if you joined up/already were a member, and another price ($99) for non-members (I think I have these prices right, it may have been $99/$109-- they change the offer frequently). Perhaps you clicked on the lower price? It seemed pretty clear to me what they were doing.
Just like almost every site, they have "options" that default in the direction that "push" you in the direction THEY want. Every site you see will have an already-checked box that says "Send me promotional Emails", and you have to find it and UNcheck it if you don't want your mailbox flooded every day.
I think that sportsmansguide is an OK company, BUT they sort of do the same thing. When you place an order, there's a big check box 2 by 3 inches that offers for you to become a member, with "small print" that says that it's a $49.99 AUTO-RENEWING charge annually. If you're in a hurry, it looks like a "Continue With Checkout" sort of thing.
Down below, there's a tiny little link that says "No Thanks, I'd rather pay extra" or something to that effect. If you don't click this, you can only get to the end of checkout by "joining the club".
Just gotta watch out these days.
Lannis
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Just like almost every site, they have "options" that default in the direction that "push" you in the direction THEY want. Every site you see will have an already-checked box that says "Send me promotional Emails", and you have to find it and UNcheck it if you don't want your mailbox flooded every day.
I think that sportsmansguide is an OK company, BUT they sort of do the same thing. When you place an order, there's a big check box 2 by 3 inches that offers for you to become a member, with "small print" that says that it's a $49.99 AUTO-RENEWING charge annually. If you're in a hurry, it looks like a "Continue With Checkout" sort of thing.
Down below, there's a tiny little link that says "No Thanks, I'd rather pay extra" or something to that effect. If you don't click this, you can only get to the end of checkout by "joining the club".
Just gotta watch out these days.
Lannis
Spot on Lannis 👍
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Amazon Prime! You have to dig into their website to opt out.
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OK, they responded to my e-mail and will they'll take off the charge. I do appreciate their quick response. It's still a little sneaky billing me 30 days later.
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When you click on the “member price” there is text that says they will bill you for the membership in 30 days. And they say if you change your mind/cancel your membership, they will refund it to you minus the difference between the member and non-member price. At least, all this was spelled out when I looked at their site.
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OK, they responded to my e-mail and will they'll take off the charge. I do appreciate their quick response. It's still a little sneaky billing me 30 days later.
That was to give you 30 days to decide about being a member or notTo take advantage of the member pricing on the jacket. Sounds quite decent as they didn’t charge up front. It was Pretty clearly stated.
Not sure what the PayPal issue mentioned but they have no responsibility in this particular issue of pricing.
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That was to give you 30 days to decide about being a member or notTo take advantage of the member pricing on the jacket. Sounds quite decent as they didn’t charge up front. It was Pretty clearly stated.
Not sure what the PayPal issue mentioned but they have no responsibility in this particular issue of pricing.
Perhaps clearly stated Paul but I'm not alone here for falling for the same scheme. How many checked the wrong box and didn't know $50 was taken off their cards 30 days later? It seems a little fishy, kudos to you guys that didn't get caught.
Me? I'm done with SG and making paypal my last choice. The idea that I can get billed and paid off my card a month later with no notice doesn't seem right to me. Next time it might be a lost $20M security deposit for a seat on the Tesla Space Flight. Not for me.
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I’ve been a member of SG for 25+ years and been a member most of that time however not now as I don’t order enough stuff to make up the membership.
The military and foreign country police stuff is very good quality and cheap priced, excluding these BUTT UGLY police jackets😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I’ve been a member of SG for 25+ years and been a member most of that time however not now as I don’t order enough stuff to make up the membership.
The military and foreign country police stuff is very good quality and cheap priced, excluding these BUTT UGLY police jackets😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't have much good to say about SG but wearing the jacket makes anyone wearing it an elite of Guzzi Royalty. Those of us wearing the jacket would lead the parade at Elkader and be Road Captains to the followers.
Without the jacket, you're not part of the club. You're a worthy Guzzi rider for sure but not apart of the "Guzzi esprit de corps". :grin:
Follow and we will lead. :cool:
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I don't have much good to say about SG but wearing the jacket makes anyone wearing it an elite of Guzzi Royalty. Those of us wearing the jacket would lead the parade at Elkader and be Road Captains to the followers.
Without the jacket, you're not part of the club. You're a worthy Guzzi rider for sure but not apart of the "Guzzi esprit de corps". :grin:
Follow and we will lead. :cool:
Do you wear it when riding your Ducati? :wink:
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Do you wear it when riding your Ducati? :wink:
Only wearing mesh today. Saw a guy on a black Griso SE at Pop's. Don tuned it on his Dynojet. Said he ran up to 151. I have no idea what the speedo correction is.
But yes, I did wear it on the Duc.
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Well I'm not too happy with the vendor, Sportsman Guide. I just see they charged me $50 today on my paypal account to become a member. I don't recall ever signing up for it. It seems like a scam since it came a month after purchase. Apparently paypal won't help but they'll put a stop to future payments to SG.
I can only guess I checked the wrong box and missed the fine print.
I'll let the folks here know so that you might get a chance to prevent them from scamming you too.
Of course, you can't talk to a human on the phone at paypal or SG since they are closed due to the virus. It makes me wonder how secure paypal is. I might call the credit card company to stop payment. $50, not enough to make a deal over but enough to piss me off.
So it's Sportsman's fault that you admit you probably checked the wrong box? And you come online to rip a legitimate company and claim they are running a scam, which is BS! Go figure! :huh:
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So it's Sportsman's fault that you admit you probably checked the wrong box? And you come online to rip a legitimate company and claim they are running a scam, which is BS! Go figure! :huh:
I've related what happened to me accurately. I wasn't the only one here that made the same "mistake". I also mentioned that I got a refund. I explained my displeasure with SG and Paypal. So I guess you could say I was ripping two legitimate companies.
Now, despite getting a refund, I haven't changed my mind. I think it was deliberately sneaky by the fact that I'd been charged 30 days after the fact without additional approval on my part. I hate to be blindsided. So I have to wonder how many folks just lost $50 and didn't notice or didn't want the hassle to get it back?
You may not like my opinion but the facts are facts. And again, I'm not buying anything else from SG and will use Paypal as a last resort.
And hopefully, if there are even more here than the few here that mentioned it, they too might have the knowledge to get a refund. That's the advantage posting this.
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The facts are the site has two prices listed on every item. One is their regular price and the other is for members, which entitles you to free shipping on items over $49 and lower prices on all items. Upon checkout, you are given the option to take advantage of the member prices with a free 30-day trial of their membership program. If you did not read that then it's your fault. Did you think you were getting the lower 'members' price for nothing? The reason you got billed 30-days after your purchase was because you failed to cancel the 30-day trial. Your bad both ways. There is nothing shady or deceptive about their policy and in fact I suspect a lot of guys sign up for the 30-day trial to get free shipping and lower price then cancel.
I have no affiliation with this company but as a business owner who works his ass off trying to provide good customer service it fries me when some disgruntled customer jumps on the internet and in many cases accuses the company of running a scam. When the reality is this was YOUR error or oversite and you should have just called the company as you did, settle the issue and let it go, as opposed to claiming on here and who knows what other sites that SPORTSMAN is running a scam!
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I don’t have a dog in the fight but can offer this on SG’s behalf. I have been ordering from them for 25 years and never had a bad experience. I have been a member for most of those years however recently let that expire because if one does not order a lot of stuff it’s probably not worth the cost. Also I figured out that most of the stuff there can be purchased from Walley World cheaper. That being said the military stuff is neat sometimes, like that great looking motorcycle jacket🤣🤣😂😂
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The facts are the site has two prices listed on every item. One is their regular price and the other is for members, which entitles you to free shipping on items over $49 and lower prices on all items. Upon checkout, you are given the option to take advantage of the member prices with a free 30-day trial of their membership program. If you did not read that then it's your fault. Did you think you were getting the lower 'members' price for nothing? The reason you got billed 30-days after your purchase was because you failed to cancel the 30-day trial. Your bad both ways. There is nothing shady or deceptive about their policy and in fact I suspect a lot of guys sign up for the 30-day trial to get free shipping and lower price then cancel.
I have no affiliation with this company but as a business owner who works his ass off trying to provide good customer service it fries me when some disgruntled customer jumps on the internet and in many cases accuses the company of running a scam. When the reality is this was YOUR error or oversite and you should have just called the company as you did, settle the issue and let it go, as opposed to claiming on here and who knows what other sites that SPORTSMAN is running a scam!
I totally admitted that I must've checked the wrong box in my first post. I wasn't the only one here that did the same thing. And anyone else that made the same "mistake" that I did will now have info about it right here. So my post does serve more than myself.
I see no reason to be charged 30 days later unless they were being sneaky. I've presented both sides of the story. And remember, I am also citing both Paypal along with SG. As I said before, I am not happy with either but I'll give SG credit for refunding the amount promptly- getting charges I don't expect, not so much.
I am sure that as hard as you work that you certainly treat your customers with the utmost of respect.
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