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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #240 on: September 14, 2021, 05:15:33 PM »

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #241 on: September 14, 2021, 05:45:48 PM »
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #242 on: September 14, 2021, 06:38:07 PM »
See Post Reply# 195 by Tusayan.

Yes, swingarm looks long but in the official promo video where the eagle lands on the rider's hand the bike appears to have a short wheelbase.

it is substantially shorter than the griso for example

I lined up the images to check!!

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #243 on: September 14, 2021, 10:24:28 PM »
It seems that many here have already analysed all available media, carefully scrutinising every single hypothetical, speculative and even imagined nuance, literally pixel by pixel.  The verdict is?  Fairly evenly split it seems.
Personally I like it.  A bold new/retro direction from Piaggio that seems likely to propel the Marque into another century of manufacture.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #243 on: September 14, 2021, 10:24:28 PM »

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #244 on: September 14, 2021, 10:53:26 PM »
and then Hinkley revealed this:





Wow. Triumph throwing down the gauntlet there!

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #245 on: September 14, 2021, 11:13:38 PM »
Hey, where's Oberdan Bezzi's mashup of MGS01 bodywork with the new 4 cam motor?  :rolleyes: :popcorn:

Yes please. :tongue: I've seen pics of a Moto Morini wearing MGS-01 bodywork. And it looks great! So if that can work...

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #246 on: September 14, 2021, 11:35:54 PM »
What about the lack of a torque arm on the swing arm? Have they solved the problem without any?

There's been quite a bit of talk about that. There's no answers yet, just fans hoping that the length of the arm reduces the problem. Same for the cantilever shock.

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What will the new interesting engine splitting mean for overhaul? Easier or harder? Now I sit back and get at beer! :boozing: :popcorn:

I haven't seen anyone bring this up; I am wondering too! Also the tilt. It's a really compact engine but they have stuck with the forward tilt from the Martini days, for legroom as then I guess.

Is the tilt still 8 degrees as on the Martini project? Martini wanted more, and it looks now like maybe they did get more in the end?

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #247 on: September 14, 2021, 11:44:57 PM »
Wow. Triumph throwing down the gauntlet there!

now everyone's at it.    :grin:

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #248 on: September 15, 2021, 12:08:02 AM »
The Triumph Speed Triple RR is not a Guzzi competitor, They've been teasing that thing for months. 1200cc 177HP Bonkers Rocket. Triumph hasn't had a big bore sportbike since 2006.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #249 on: September 15, 2021, 01:41:09 AM »
Sure. I didn't mean they threw it at Guzzi, haha. At those numbers it's not even a Superveloce competitor. Bonkers is the word!

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #250 on: September 15, 2021, 04:52:58 AM »
There's been quite a bit of talk about that. There's no answers yet, just fans hoping that the length of the arm reduces the problem. Same for the cantilever shock.

I haven't seen anyone bring this up; I am wondering too! Also the tilt. It's a really compact engine but they have stuck with the forward tilt from the Martini days, for legroom as then I guess.

Is the tilt still 8 degrees as on the Martini project? Martini wanted more, and it looks now like maybe they did get more in the end?

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #251 on: September 15, 2021, 06:23:21 AM »
It seems that many here have already analysed all available media, carefully scrutinising every single hypothetical, speculative and even imagined nuance, literally pixel by pixel.  The verdict is?  Fairly evenly split it seems.
Personally I like it.  A bold new/retro direction from Piaggio that seems likely to propel the Marque into another century of manufacture.
You can't please all the people all the time.....

I didn’t count the yeas vs nays, but it seems to me more like it than not, even if it’s not quite their riding style. Regardless, you’re right—not everyone can be pleased, especially curmudgeons  stuck in the past :D
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #252 on: September 15, 2021, 08:07:40 AM »
Don't know if this has been mentioned but looks to me that the cylinders are part of the upper crankcase. Perhaps to stiffen the engine unit as a load bearing lump.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #253 on: September 15, 2021, 10:16:54 AM »
it is substantially shorter than the griso for example

I lined up the images to check!!

How did you establish a common scale to do this? Wheels? Tires?...
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #254 on: September 15, 2021, 10:33:23 AM »
and then Hinkley revealed this:





OMG, that is beautiful!
I definitely don't need 180 HP on the street (or even on the track for that matter).    I'll stick with my Thruxton R.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #255 on: September 15, 2021, 10:39:10 AM »
A motorcycle with 3 cylinders is simply WRONG!!

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #256 on: September 15, 2021, 10:47:33 AM »
Sure. I didn't mean they threw it at Guzzi, haha. At those numbers it's not even a Superveloce competitor. Bonkers is the word!

HP and torque aren't far off a Hyabusa, but, it weighs about 100# less!
Bonkers indeed!

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #257 on: September 15, 2021, 11:41:13 AM »
it is substantially shorter than the griso for example

I lined up the images to check!!

Keep in mind the Griso's wheelbase was rather rangy for a sporty standard:  Griso wheelbase = 61.0 inches (1471 mm)

To compare:

California EV wheelbase = 61.4 inches  (1560 mm)
V11 LeMans wheelbase = 58.70 inches  (1,490 mm)
Sport 1100 wheelbase =  58.07 inches (1475 mm)
V11 Sport wheelbase = 57.9 inches (1471 mm)
V7 Classic wheelbase = 57.0 inches   (1449 mm)
MGS-01 wheelbase = 56.2 inches   (1428 mm)

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #258 on: September 15, 2021, 11:52:42 AM »
and then Hinkley revealed this:





I would love if they can make this style of fairing on the new Trident or even the lower CC street triple...oh I am a sucker for bullet one-eye monster fairing...
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #259 on: September 15, 2021, 12:25:53 PM »
Keep in mind the Griso's wheelbase was rather rangy for a sporty standard:  Griso wheelbase = 61.0 inches (1471 mm)

To compare:

California EV wheelbase = 61.4 inches  (1560 mm)
V11 LeMans wheelbase = 58.70 inches  (1,490 mm)
Sport 1100 wheelbase =  58.07 inches (1475 mm)
V11 Sport wheelbase = 57.9 inches (1471 mm)
V7 Classic wheelbase = 57.0 inches   (1449 mm)
MGS-01 wheelbase = 56.2 inches   (1428 mm)

My WAG puts the V100 Mandello's wheelbase between 56 and 57 inches.  :popcorn:

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #260 on: September 15, 2021, 03:06:31 PM »
A motorcycle with 3 cylinders is simply WRONG!!

Not when you hear the Moto2 pack go by you at full song...IMHO they sound MUCH better than the MotoGP bikes!

And certainly not when you throw a leg over a street Triumph Triple and crack the throttle. It's a fantastic machine, for sure.  :thumb:
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #261 on: September 15, 2021, 03:31:29 PM »
I could totally imagine Guzzi doing a V3 'their way'.

... lying flat, for example - Zylinders pocking out to sides and front ;)
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #262 on: September 15, 2021, 04:06:53 PM »
yeah, 56 -57 inches

I compare it to the griso because a- I've got one and b- excluding the MGS-01, it's the fastest guzzi to date so I guess it's gonna be the V100s nearest competitor...

shorter wheelbase, lighter and more power, that sounds good to me!!

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« Reply #263 on: September 15, 2021, 05:24:15 PM »
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #264 on: September 15, 2021, 05:39:30 PM »
I like it a lot in either color.  A Motus was the only bike I ever ordered before it was officially released.  This may be the second, and probably in red.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #265 on: September 15, 2021, 09:39:13 PM »
I like triples, although I've never owned one.  The seem combine the best of both 2 & 4 cyl bikes (for torque, power, revving, sound) and are extremely smooth.

I'd consider one of those if the clip-ons were a little higher.  If I sit on one and find it's more comfy, then I might have an interest.  I'm a little like Goldilocks, not too cruiser-ish, not too racer-ish. 

I don't need a 160HP   :evil:
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« Reply #266 on: September 15, 2021, 09:47:02 PM »
Not when you hear the Moto2 pack go by you at full song...IMHO they sound MUCH better than the MotoGP bikes!

And certainly not when you throw a leg over a street Triumph Triple and crack the throttle. It's a fantastic machine, for sure.  :thumb:

And most definitely not when I take my Laverda Jota out for a run.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #267 on: September 16, 2021, 07:54:39 AM »
I am very interested, I would like a bike lighter than my Audace but more "substantial " than my V7lll. I've been hoping for a lower street going version of the V85 but the V100 set up right would fit the bill I believe. Also I would not be afraid to order an unseen bike, I did that when the R75/5 was announced. It had a couple of problems, nothing too major, carbs and stator which were fixed promptly. I am really looking forward to this new bike and believe it's the correct way for MG to go. Don't need to be too radical and tromp on Aprilia's turf nor get stuck in a rut. The V85 was a good move to get out of that rut and MG needs to stay on that path, IMO.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #268 on: September 16, 2021, 07:56:06 AM »
I will wait and reserve final judgement until I see the bike in person and see all the specs and what it will cost with aerodynamic hard bags. 

I would love to have a Tracer 700 equipped with the suspension, and electronics that come on the Tracer 900, but that will never happen, which means this new V100 would be a direct competitor to the Tracer 900.

It would have to be very competitive in price and specs to win me over.  The shaft drive giving it the edge.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #269 on: September 16, 2021, 09:19:38 AM »
I like triples, although I've never owned one.  The seem combine the best of both 2 & 4 cyl bikes (for torque, power, revving, sound) and are extremely smooth.

I'd consider one of those if the clip-ons were a little higher.  If I sit on one and find it's more comfy, then I might have an interest.  I'm a little like Goldilocks, not too cruiser-ish, not too racer-ish. 

I don't need a 160HP   :evil:

unless you are dying for a triple, sounds like the Speed Twin would scratch your itch.. 1200cc & most likely faster than a thruxton (at least the 2020-2021)... but the size of a V7 and with classic looks.
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