V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest

[auzziguzzi]

Moto Guzzi definitely made it a little awkward to find the smathering of accessories available for the V100.
When you go through the pre-order process the website will walk you through all of the available accessories that will then be delivered to your local dealer for installation when the bike arrives.  Kind of clunky since you then make a transaction for the deposit on the bike and then get contacted by the dealer for a deposit on all of the accessories. I did all of this while sitting at a computer with the local dealer and it still ended up being two separate transactions. Little wonder the dealer indicated that I was the first one in line for all of the accessories as no one else bothered to go the extra step.

Skippy

Now that you've ordered a V100 I'm wondering whether you've been able to download or procure the Owner Manual for your new steed?
We are not able to download them in Oz as yet (requires VIN and ZIP / POST code on the official Moto Guzzi download site).
We should be getting V100s around October 2022 2023 in Oz.

[egschade]

Moto Guzzi definitely made it a little awkward to find the smathering of accessories available for the V100.
When you go through the pre-order process the website will walk you through all of the available accessories that will then be delivered to your local dealer for installation when the bike arrives.  Kind of clunky since you then make a transaction for the deposit on the bike and then get contacted by the dealer for a deposit on all of the accessories. I did all of this while sitting at a computer with the local dealer and it still ended up being two separate transactions. Little wonder the dealer indicated that I was the first one in line for all of the accessories as no one else bothered to go the extra step.

Skippy

Charlie posted this link - worked for me...

https://wide.piaggiogroup.com/en/articles/accessories/moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-a-vast-range-of-accessories-to-suit-every-need/index.html

[Huzo]

Now that you've ordered a V100 I'm wondering whether you've been able to download or procure the Owner Manual for your new steed?
We are not able to download them in Oz as yet (requires VIN and ZIP / POST code on the official Moto Guzzi download site).
We should be getting V100s around October 2022 in Oz.

October ?

[auzziguzzi]

October ?

https://www.bikesales.com.au/editorial/details/moto-guzzi-v100-mandello-destined-for-australian-shores-137413/

Spring 2023 / late 2023 according to the above link

[Sye]

Looks like a main stand is available too.

[Huzo]

Looks like a main stand is available too.

That screen is going to be a sticking point for anyone half serious.
Not only will it be insufficient for touring, the whole visual balance looks odd.

[Sye]

That screen is going to be a sticking point for anyone half serious.
Not only will it be insufficient for touring, the whole visual balance looks odd.

It's electrically adjustable by around 4-6" and there's a touring screen available. It may work well, the new Tiger 900 screen is small but works really well.

[Pescatore]

Yeah, looks like the screen is all the way down. But being used to the Norge's protection, the V100 may need some aftermarket shields.

I am surprised by the rear box, sticking out so far back.   They could have copied the Norge setup. More appealing to me.
Maybe the pictures don't do justice. Hoping to see one live soon.

[Huzo]

The wheels should be the same understated silver as the tank…(same as the early Norges).
Screen should be tastefully scaled up and clear…(too dark).
The “aerodynamic winglets” are a lame blight on the bike’s lines and I’ll bet my flat tappets that they’re just “ gimmicky…”
Would be nice if the top case could be re positioned way further forward at the owners discretion when required.

[Sye]

I used to own a VFR750 with a Ventura rack and bag. Brilliant bit of kit and you could reverse the rack so it was over the pillion seat.

Like this...

[ridingron]

...   Would be nice if the top case could be re positioned way further forward at the owners discretion when required.   

I can't see the rear mounting point for the top box bracket, but making a forward (over the seat) bracket looks doable.

[Huzo]

I can't see the rear mounting point for the top box bracket, but making a forward (over the seat) bracket looks doable.

It is.
I moved my V85 one 150 mm forward by modifying the bracket.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

That screen is going to be a sticking point for anyone half serious.
Not only will it be insufficient for touring, the whole visual balance looks odd.

Any bike with a big touring screen looks like crap. If having a big windshield is a priority to you, you just have to live with it.

[Trialsman]

Like Huzo, I cut, rewelded, hence moved my case about 6" forward.  I later did the same for Tommy in Ohio.  It can be done if you want it so.

[Huzo]

Any bike with a big touring screen looks like crap. If having a big windshield is a priority to you, you just have to live with it.

Didn’t say I wanted a big one, but we’ll wait and see what the buyers say after the gloss wears off.

There will be complaints and I will draw your attention back to this point when it happens.

You Yanks are the ones that like them more than us and since when has something looking like crap, stopped American buyers clamouring to procure it ? We’ve all seen the horrible things bolted to the front of some people’s Norges and no, it’s not a “priority” for me, I have the small(er) standard screen on mine and I do get it out and ride it sometimes….
But not much.

[janguzzi]

Source:
https://www.facebook.com/gabroracing/photos/pcb.5988462924594931/5988451231262767/



"Green is drag, mainly from tyre to roller contact. Red is measured rear wheel power, Black is calculated power at the clutch, Blue is a calculated torque at the clutch."

"So this should be the very first indipendent dyno test for the Moto Guzzi newcomer V100 Mandello
She was just out of the break-in period and pulled 112hp on my very conservative dyno, pretty much matching the 115hp declared power.
Power delivery is clean with no dips at all, with strong low end, stronger midrange, and nice topend till the 9500rpm rev limiter.
Good work Moto Guzzi!"

[lucian]

That's an impressive run in terms of linear delivery. Not too bad out of the box. Thanks for sharing!

[Huzo]

Torque @ 4,200 COMPARED to 7,000 is fantastic.

[2dogs]

Usually on a gas engine HP and torque cross just after 5200 RPM

[bad Chad]

This is what happens when you stop getting laid….

[Huzo]

This is what happens when you stop getting laid….

So what happens Chad and why aren’t you doing ok ? 

[Huzo]

I used to own a VFR750 with a Ventura rack and bag. Brilliant bit of kit and you could reverse the rack so it was over the pillion seat.

Like this...

Yes.
That’s how I always had mine on the Triumph and early years on the Norge, now have hard luggage but on both Norge and V85, top case a LONG way further forward than standard on current bikes after modification.

[bad Chad]

I’m guessing here Huzo,  but I suspect some get way far out in the weeds speculating about the various chariteristcs of motorcycles that haven’t even been reLeased yet.

[Huzo]

I’m guessing here Huzo,  but I suspect some get way far out in the weeds speculating about the various chariteristcs of motorcycles that haven’t even been reLeased yet.

That sounds like a fair take on things Chad, but I don’t get the connection with not getting a shot away.
As for speculating about the new bike, isn’t that an integral part of the build up to something exciting ?
A new holiday, trip, relationship, car, home…etc
Anyone here who takes a running stab at what the new V100 will or won’t be like, I’m sure will be more than prepared to say…
“Oh yeah, that’s what I thought….” If their premonitions were correct
Or
“Jeez that’s a surprise, I expected something different…” If they’re wrong.

Also, if I wanted to, I could go back to the V85 threadfest that flooded these pages around 2017 or ‘18 where some of the greatest luminaries of the WildGuzzi community said things like…
 “it’s a concept bike, which means it’ll never make it into production…”
Now how did that pan out ?
The same was mooted here about the V100 and not very long ago…..There are a lot of cashed up old farts around who want to spend the remaining part of their biking life, reading articles about and preparing for the purchase of, the bike that will see them through the next few years…

You sometimes remind me of a jealous wife Chad…
You just can’t stand to see a guy enjoy himself with a little self indulgent fantasy…(so we’ve come the full circle about getting laid….).
Just to bring my point into sharper focus, I’ve bumped an old thread that was chocked full of meaty speculation regarding an upcoming new model from Moto Guzzi.
You were among the hordes of glitterati that gave us an insight into your ability to predict the motorcycling future, it doesn’t matter that you were completely clueless, I just thought it amusing that you were so early out of the gates to cast a speculative eye over the good news, when now you pour derision on those who do the same.

[bad Chad]

Perhaps your on to something Huzo,  maybe I am behaving like a jealous wife??  Go ahead, have your little full. Lol

I am and always have been a fan of the v85, but are you saying I made predictions about the bike that were “wildly off” in the 87 page thread you just bumped?

I have no recollection of this, since it is 87 pages, could you sight where I allegedly did this?

[Huzo]

Perhaps your on to something Huzo,  maybe I am behaving like a jealous wife??  Go ahead, have your little full. Lol

I am and always have been a fan of the v85, but are you saying I made predictions about the bike that were “wildly off” in the 87 page thread you just bumped?

I have no recollection of this, since it is 87 pages, could you sight where I allegedly did this?

Reply #13 on the V85 threadfest.
Not the crime of the century for sure, but just an early prediction by you that the V85 would be a flop.
So you were not “always a fan”.

[bad Chad]

Oh my,  the irony here is killing me!    Here I am complaining that you guys are "too much in the weeds",  yet I get sucked into playing "he said, she said" with a guy on the internet using quotes from 5 years ago!!

Anyway, here is the evidence that you pointed to, to support your contention that I claimed the v85 would be a flop.

my quote from 2017,   "I hope Guzzi is not still chasing BMW!   They have done it for decades and it has almost never been successful."


So here I go, into the weeds.     I never said the v85 would be a flop.   I said, just what it says!   I stand by it today.   For decades BMW and Guzzi built similar bikes for essentially the same market share.    Guzzi's, being mostly  cooler, and far more desirable to someone like me and you.   However, the larger market didn't feel the same as you and I.  BMW did, and continues to this day to dwarf Guzzi in sales.       

Recently Guzzi, under Piaggio, has seemed to realize that taking on much bigger BMW head to head was not working out great.     So they started a new approach, and the v85 is a prime example.   The v85 is something of a Retro adv bike, and Guzzi purposely designed it that way.   No other mfg had gone after a market for such, and it worked out very well for Guzzi.   For several years Guzzi made the only such bike in the segment,( now Ducati is trying to cash in with the Desert x),  and it sold well because it was not trying to be a BMW GS wannabe.   Guzzi started to embrace its strength, fun, old school air cooled bikes!   Far, different from anything BMW was going after.   Where are the light air cooled BMW to compete with the v7 or v9, they are decades gone, leaving the field wide open for Guzzi to capitalize on.    It worked so well,  it gave Guzzi the room and capital to design an entirely new bike to now go after some of those prized BMW sales that the Stelvio and Breva could just never quite pull off.

So you are going to have to dig deeper to find where it is that I disparaged the v85, I think your going to need a good deal of luck!

[Ncdan]

You guys think it could be discussed whether or not the V100 would have the attributes of a two up tourer as it’s been advertised?

Dan

[elrealistico]

You guys think it could be discussed whether or not the V100 would have the attributes of a two up tourer as it’s been advertised?

Dan

Sure, why not? What's another Internet slapfight  As for me I will wait a year or 3, maybe the initial issues will be sorted by then, whether mechanical/electrical or with extras and accessories

[Bulldog9]

Sure, why not? What's another Internet slapfight  As for me I will wait a year or 3, maybe the initial issues will be sorted by then, whether mechanical/electrical or with extras and accessories

People need to stop p!$$!ng in the corn flakes...


If I buy a v100 series it will be in 2025, hopefully the new Stelvio (and others) will be available at that time
Either way the initial kinks will be worked out. Hoping the Stelvio checks all the blocks.

The Mandello checks all the 1200 Sport boxes, and could be a replacement,
But we will see if the Stelvio will check the boxes to replace my current TT bike,
The Mello Yello Stornello...

For now, I am loving what I have.