Small Block top speeds?

[bad Chad]

The 17’ Roamer 853cc i flog about on is far from a Fast motorcycle, but I find it fast enough, most times.

With a OEM Guzzi touring wind shield it shows a 110-12 mph on the clock wound up in 6th.  That’s probably 103-5 mph in reality.

Curious as to top end on other small block models?

[Huzo]

My V85 is looking for a nap at around 175 -180. The rpm lights are starting the flash a bit around there.

[Tkelly]

Don’t know but 25 over will get your WI license suspended.

[bad Chad]

Tom, please don't start this crap.

I don't care, what will get who when where.   I have done it more times than I can remember, will I get caught the next time, maybe, that's not the point!  Do it on a closed circuit, I don't care!

Huzo, that's not very impressive from a machine that should have over 20hp on the Roamer!

[jas67]

2017 V7 III Special, no windshield, 30L hard bags, about 105 MPH indicated, so, probably about 100 MPH assuming 5% optimistic speedometer.
My previous 2013 V7 Racer and 2014 V7 had similar top speeds.

[Chuck in Indiana]

The AeroLario will go 85.  It sez so right on the speedometer.

[bad Chad]

That’s a Bummer.  Apparently the government limited the speed the bike could go.   If only the speedometer had a higher end.    But anyway, 85 is to dam fast!!

[guzzisteve]

Hey Chad, how bout the V65SP? I set up a friends wifes bike w/foam filters & Bubs and it inicated 125mph

I think Ed has gone faster w/his smallblocks racing than anyone else has!

[Huzo]

Tom, please don't start this crap.

I don't care, what will get who when where.   I have done it more times than I can remember, will I get caught the next time, maybe, that's not the point!  Do it on a closed circuit, I don't care!

Huzo, that's not very impressive from a machine that should have over 20hp on the Roamer!

I never said it was impressive Chad.
Who knows, if I just pinned it and waited, it might go faster.
I just knock off when the lights start to flash, but I’ll bet my arse it’ll get there quicker than the V9.
Having said that, if I could have bought a V85 with a roamer engine for correspondingly less, I’d probably have done so.
By all accounts it is a nicer “Guzzi like” mill....

[Bazil]

When the V40 gets on the road I'm optimistically hoping to see 130  ,well maybe with a tailwind off a cliff

[yogidozer]

My Maseratti does one-eighty-five
I lost my license, now I don't drive.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8krf7w3l_fw

[Moparnut72]

I used to race small kneel down outboard race boats. One guy posted that he hit 70 mph in testing with his C Stock Runabout. Normal speed for that class is in the middle 60's for the most part. Second guy added that his did 70 all the time on the trailer behind his truck.
kk

[SmithSwede]

2013 V7 Stone can do a genuine 103 mph per GPS (the speedometer is way off).   I wanted to know, yes or no, could it break the Ton. That was on flat Texas ground, with 30 liter Hepco saddlebags, and a big fat guy riding it while wearing Aerostich gear.   I thought about doing an underwear only run, but decided that would make a bad booking photo. 

There was just a touch of wind.   I bet you could probably get 105 or maybe 106 mph in a dead calm desert road condition.   

The small block is twitchy and quite unhappy there.  I routinely run 85 to 90 on the Stone for hours, and it’s ok with that.   There is a tollway road east of Austin that has a posted limit of 85 mph, and left lane traffic is flowing 90+.

But there is a big difference between 90 and 100 in terms of raw horsepower necessary.   Given inclines and wind, running 85 to 90 means you are almost always WOT.

I have yet to determine the top end of my 1996 Ducati 900SS.  I know it will do 110 per GPS.   The big difference in the Ducati is that it *likes* running that fast.  Does not seem nervous or strained.  I’d guess 125 to 130 is the top for the Duck.

[Frulk]

2014V7R at approx 6194 feet altitude. No headwind and a very slight downhill incline. Me laying on tank bag resulted in 97-98 mph. My body type is extra husky so that and the altitude probably figured into the sub ton result.

[bad Chad]

Bring it on Huzo!  I get the flashing red light too, but I keep on pushing!   

I set the shift light to kick on 500rpm prior to computer intervention, and if I’m paying attention I can shift before retardation sets in!

[Tkelly]

The old small blocks were faster than yours.V50 Monza went107,the 650 Lario went 119,according to Ian Faloon in his new Guzzi book.The850 t went 123 .what does yours do Again?

[smsw]

2013 V7 Stone can do a genuine 103 mph per GPS (the speedometer is way off).   I wanted to know, yes or no, could it break the Ton. That was on flat Texas ground, with 30 liter Hepco saddlebags, and a big fat guy riding it while wearing Aerostich gear.   I thought about doing an underwear only run, but decided that would make a bad booking photo.

The official way to get your top speed is, as you said underwear only, but you have to be horizontal, stomach on the seat, feet waving in the breeze behind you.  Just ask Rollie Free...

[jpv7]

2013 V7 Stone can do a genuine 103 mph per GPS (the speedometer is way off).   I wanted to know, yes or no, could it break the Ton. That was on flat Texas ground, with 30 liter Hepco saddlebags, and a big fat guy riding it while wearing Aerostich gear.   I thought about doing an underwear only run, but decided that would make a bad booking photo. 

There was just a touch of wind.   I bet you could probably get 105 or maybe 106 mph in a dead calm desert road condition.   

The small block is twitchy and quite unhappy there.  I routinely run 85 to 90 on the Stone for hours, and it’s ok with that.   There is a tollway road east of Austin that has a posted limit of 85 mph, and left lane traffic is flowing 90+.

But there is a big difference between 90 and 100 in terms of raw horsepower necessary.   Given inclines and wind, running 85 to 90 means you are almost always WOT.

I have yet to determine the top end of my 1996 Ducati 900SS.  I know it will do 110 per GPS.   The big difference in the Ducati is that it *likes* running that fast.  Does not seem nervous or strained.  I’d guess 125 to 130 is the top for the Duck.

Good guess...my '97 900ss would do about 125 up the Andretti straight at Mosport.  My buddy clocked me with a radar gun as I came over the crest into turn 8.  Might have squeezed a bit more but I saw Jesus... that was a fun bike at the track, especially a technical one like Grattan.

[Gliderjohn]

From Tkelly:

The850 t went 123 .what does yours do Again?

I have a T-3 that is somewhat modified and dynos 56+ off the rear wheel. Have had it up to 115mph indicated with me, the wife and a trunk onboard. That was done in a very rural, flat (you can see for miles and miles...) blacktop in western KS.
GliderJohn.

[bad Chad]

The old small blocks were faster than yours.V50 Monza went107,the 650 Lario went 119,according to Ian Faloon in his new Guzzi book.The850 t went 123 .what does yours do Again?

The Lario, probabley, the Monza, no way.   I have Faloon's book too, and see where he quotes Motociclisom, Sept 81 of a Monza with a 107 top speed, and I don't believe it.
I had a v65sp, which had more guts than any Monza, and my v9 would eat the v65 for lunch and still be hungry.   

Faloon

The 850T is a big block, so that's not what we are talking about here.

[jas67]

When the V40 gets on the road I'm optimistically hoping to see 130  ,well maybe with a tailwind off a cliff

130 kph?

[jas67]

2013 V7 Stone can do a genuine 103 mph per GPS (the speedometer is way off).   I wanted to know, yes or no, could it break the Ton. That was on flat Texas ground, with 30 liter Hepco saddlebags, and a big fat guy riding it while wearing Aerostich gear.   I thought about doing an underwear only run, but decided that would make a bad booking photo. 

There was just a touch of wind.   I bet you could probably get 105 or maybe 106 mph in a dead calm desert road condition.   

The small block is twitchy and quite unhappy there.  I routinely run 85 to 90 on the Stone for hours, and it’s ok with that.   There is a tollway road east of Austin that has a posted limit of 85 mph, and left lane traffic is flowing 90+.

But there is a big difference between 90 and 100 in terms of raw horsepower necessary.   Given inclines and wind, running 85 to 90 means you are almost always WOT.

I have yet to determine the top end of my 1996 Ducati 900SS.  I know it will do 110 per GPS.   The big difference in the Ducati is that it *likes* running that fast.  Does not seem nervous or strained.  I’d guess 125 to 130 is the top for the Duck.

Agreed, the small blocks are not well suited for much more than 75, and cruise most comfortably at 60-70 MPH.


I agree, the top end for your 900SS is likely 125 to 130.  That's about what my Monster 796 tops out at.  It probably makes similar power, though the aerodynamics of your 900SS are probably a little better.

[Scout63]

The v50ii must be one of the slowest of the small blocks, but it sounds aggressive and delicious on the pipe.  It is also surprisingly steady and smooth at 50-70 on the highway.  I will never test it’s top end as I just don’t ride that fast anymore.  I like it over the big block in the sense that I can ride it at 6-7k in town and still maintain safe speeds.

[Bazil]

130 kph?

Definitely not MPH ! The factory manual suggests " over 150 kmh" . I doubt that !

I recall the Lario getting over the ton ( 170?), but that was a long time ago and the older I get the faster it was. 

[motogoro]

V7 III Stone, E4 vs E5 top speed?
Though more important to me is acceleration at highway speeds for two lane passing. 

[Moparnut72]

My V7lll Special is faster than I expected but if I want to go really fast I drag out the Audace. I have no idea how fast it will go but I have seen 96 in 4th.
kk

[blu guzz]

On my v85, I have seen 110mph before I backed off, probably less in reality.  It is still stable at that speed.  I have always felt that that engine in a lower chassis with some bodywork and proper gearing would be good for 125-130 mph.  But, what use would it really be in the States?
I had a K1200RS Beemer that would indicate 150mph, but again, the top speed really didn't matter in the US, but the torque was a real rush flying up to any legal speed and for passing.

[bad Chad]

The v9 is twitchy over 95.   It’s not scary, but it’s clearly not super planted post ton.

It’s kind of a dumb question, but one worth asking.   The v9 is very happy to bound around from 0-95 mph, pretty much what it was intended for.

[Rough Edge racing]

From Tkelly:
I have a T-3 that is somewhat modified and dynos 56+ off the rear wheel. Have had it up to 115mph indicated with me, the wife and a trunk onboard. That was done in a very rural, flat (you can see for miles and miles...) blacktop in western KS.
GliderJohn.

My land speed racer 650 Triumph has 57 hp @ 7100 rpm at the rear wheel . It also has 39 ft lbs of torque at 7100 rpm... It has run 133 mph into a slight head wind , clocked by electronic Equipment...and held several speed records..
   Notice how low the clipons are, the general lack of crap in the in the wind.

     

[yogidozer]

I know cold weather is coming, and everyone likes to talk how fast they can go, but....
It's also rut time for deer. Bucks are chasing doe's, doe's are running from bucks.
All times of the day, not just mornings and evenings.
Fawns born this summer have lost their spots, but aren't thinking right yet.
They walk up to me and my dogs like we're family.
So beware, don't go knocking bark off trees.
Enjoy the fall sights.