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Offline Moda253

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Rims for jackal?
« on: February 23, 2024, 04:44:59 PM »
I know I asked a question about tubeless rims for the jackal a few weeks ago. But wondering are there any replacement rims for this bike. It is now running very well, but the rims are rusty. So…. Wondering if there is a way to save this bike by getting new rims.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2024, 05:13:10 PM »
Can't the Jackal run the same rims as the V11EV.
Those on my '98 EV are aluminum, spoked and tubeless..
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2024, 05:26:05 PM »
Can't the Jackal run the same rims as the V11EV.
Those on my '98 EV are aluminum, spoked and tubeless..
Really nice set of wheels.

Hmmm I am not sure but are those more available?

I am almost sick thinking that my bike may be dead because the rims are bad.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2024, 06:47:35 PM »
Unless the rims are so rusty they're in danger of failing, then why would they render your bike dead? If it's just a cosmetic issue, paint or powdercoat them if you can afford other wheels.

I'm currently working on a 2000 Jackal - sat for 15 years near the Inner Harbor of Baltimore. It's rims are rusty as well, but a few minutes with 0000 stainless wool and Turtle Wax chrome cleaner has them looking great again.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2024, 07:40:47 PM »
My Jackal rims were pretty ugly after a few years of riding winters. We hand sanded them, then taped off the spokes and painted them with wheel paint.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2024, 07:46:39 PM »

I am almost sick thinking that my bike may be dead because the rims are bad.

d00d...  seriously...

You can have new rims laced up...

https://woodyswheelworks.com/

Or, you can source tubeless wheels from A 98-02 EV or Bassa

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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2024, 09:10:23 PM »
Well they are pretty rusty inside the rim. But maybe not rusted through all the way yet. Wish I would have snapped a picture. I may have to peel the tires back off and go at em with steel wool.

Thanks for the ideas from all.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2024, 09:53:48 PM »
I treat the rust around the spokes with a rust converter like Ospho before I paint so I don’t have to disassemble the wheel to treat the corrosion.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2024, 12:53:49 AM »
I got a set of the tubeless spoke EV wheels for my Jackal.  Works great.  You'll need a spacer for the front and to clear the swing-arm go from a 140 to a 130 on the rear.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2024, 05:28:26 AM »
I got a set of the tubeless spoke EV wheels for my Jackal.  Works great.  You'll need a spacer for the front and to cleat the swing-arm go from a 140 to a 130 on the rear.

I swapped to the 130 on my 02 stone's stock wheels anyway. To me anyways, the bike feels a lot more balanced with the 130 over the stock 140. Seems that all the Jackal's, and Stone's wheels rusted inside. I hear it a lot. I sanded, and treated with rust converter, then sealed to make tubeless on mine, and have been problem free for years since.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2024, 10:08:51 AM »
My stock ones were rusted inside but not too bad.  Cleaned up well enough.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2024, 03:32:35 PM »
I think it would take a LOT of rot for a rim to fail.

This is the inside of a spare rim I had back in 2012 for my then Kawa KZ650


After removing most of the rust, I decided not to use the rim, because the rust had eaten noticeably into the metal. But instead of just tossing it, I decided to cut it to check how compromised it was. Below, you can see all the gap I managed to open. Now, I am not among the strongest men in the world, but back then I could still dead-lift 500 lbs, so I was not among the weakest, either. 


My non-scientific conclusion: The rim was years away from being significantly weakened. The place(s) to watch, IMO, are the seats for the nipples. If those get weakened enough through rust, you could pull a nipple through the rim.
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Re: Rims for jackal?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2024, 10:14:16 PM »
Thanks guys for all of the replies in this thread. It makes me more confident in riding what I have now and thoughts on how to improve the rims.
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