New Morini's at Deep Discount...

[SLDMRossi]

DO NOT want to get started again (please) with opinions on what are now Chinese-made Morini's. Just wanted to bring your attention to some deep discounts on a couple of new 6 1/2's:

https://www.souheganvalleymotorsports.com/search/inventory/usage/New/brand/Moto%20Morini

If I didn't already have a Chinese-made Benelli TNT 300...that I'm totally satisfied with...I'd be considering one.

Steven Rossi

[inditx]

I’ll take a red Calibro please!
inditx

[JJ]

I’ll take a red Calibro please!
inditx

The naysayers can "POO-POO" Moto Morini's all they want, but I am here to tell you that the fit and finish on these bikes is "EXCELLENT!"

[SLDMRossi]

Just always watch for the "Fees," of course.

SR

[Perazzimx14]

I wonder what the OTD number was on these bikes before the huge discounts and what is now after the discounts. I'd bet it's not a whole lot different.

The $1,124 destination fee is laughable.

[DoubleGuzzi]

.. fee is laughable.

As are all 'murican hidden costs! Apart from some stealers charging a so-called admin/documentation fee, in the UK the price you pay is typically the same as advertised i.e the OTR (on the road) price.

[Kev m]

As are all 'murican hidden costs!

That's just buyer beware as it varies from thousands to nothing.

The Guzzi dealer in Accident MD charges what they list plus a $75 doc fee and that's it.

Not to mention everything is negotiable.... Well entertaining big.

[Perazzimx14]

That's just buyer beware as it varies from thousands to nothing.

The Guzzi dealer in Accident MD charges what they list plus a $75 doc fee and that's it.

Not to mention everything is negotiable.... Well entertaining big.

Yes, there are a couple of dealers around that sell with no "fluff" fee's like destination, Doc, dealer prep etc but most add on a bunch to the price and that is why I never cared to see how the deal was put together all I care about is the OTD number, it's the only number that matters.

 

[Perazzimx14]

I just realized that the bikes with are biggest discount are 2023's and have the highest destination fee's. Usually dealer prep and destination fee's are the 1st thgins to be removed trying to move NOS. That's what alway struck me a odd that when a bike was new and before the dealers started paying on it they had to charge dealer prep and destination but if the bike sat for 6 months + and they started paying interest to the mothership they all of a sudden could ommit these fee's to move the bike.

To me dealer prep, destination, doc fee's are overhead. They gotta get product shipped in and assemble it to be able to sell it. The dealership is paying shop and/or office staff no matter if they are selling bikes or standing around drinking coffee. They are overhead like insurance, mortgage, utilities etc. I don't want to see these fee's as a line item or especially as an additional fee over and above the cost of the bike. Maybe that's why I don't sell motorcycles for a living???

But I guess the majority of the buying public look at the price especially discounted prices and are blind to the additional fee's. They see a $5,000 bike discounted by $2000 as a $3000 bike not a $3,000 bike with $2,000 in added fee's to total $5,000. Mental masterbation with numbers. Very easy way to get people to spend the same or more money buy putting an item on sale.

I can guarantee the Moto Morinni dealer is not taking a $2,200 to $2,500 loss on a $5,000/$6,000 bike. There cannot be that much profit built into them.

[Vagrant]

I just priced a V85 at Accident.
Plus $800 freight, plus $155 doc, paperwork, etc.

[Kev m]

I just priced a V85 at Accident.
Plus $800 freight, plus $155 doc, paperwork, etc.

That freight charge is new and the doc fee went up I see. Bummer.

[SLDMRossi]

"Freight" is a good place to hide a lot of miscellaneous things. Like Tariffs...

SR

[Vagrant]

Our local dealer is $899 for freight. $299 prep, $499 doc fees!
As you said, it's the bottom line #. But that's high too!

[Perazzimx14]

Our local dealer is $899 for freight. $299 prep, $499 doc fees!
As you said, it's the bottom line #. But that's high too!

Love the $499 Doc. fee. In Pennsylvania to do a title transfer, new title and registration is about $150 if you go directly to PennDot and you can walk out with eh title in your name that day (if the loan is satified) .Go to a dealership and they will add several hundred dollars on top of the PennDot fee's for "Doc fee's". All they do is fill out the same online paperwork and hit send to forward it to PennDot. Easy money. Just like the 1st service that you get whacked $600 for an oil change.

[Clifton]

 Most dealers tell little white lies when trying to explain their "doc fee". They will say "the State sets the price and we have no choice, we have to charge it".
 When in reality the State does not make them charge a doc fee at all, they only say "IF a dealer chooses to charge a doc fee they must charge the same on every sale". When dealers started the scheme of advertising vehicles for under cost to suck customers in only to discover they added hundreds and sometimes thousands on at the back end of the sale, many States started setting a maximum doc that dealers could charge.

IMO what States should mandate is if a dealer adds any fee they must provide a "dealers fee transparency statement" when quoting or advertising prices to customers that would read something along the line:

"Doc (documentation) fees are not part of licensing, registration, tax, or anything related to the State of WV. it is simply an additional amount a dealer adds to their selling price, as such sales tax is collected as it is part of the purchase. The State of WV does not endorse or encourage this practice but stipulates that any dealer that does choose to add this fee must do the same for every customer. Furthermore the State of WV limits the maximum doc fee a dealer can charge which is $595.

[Buckturgidson]

I just paid $895 for freight, $600 for setup (loose mirror,) and $369 for docs. But I got a gorgeous Mandello for $12,900 out the door so I'm not complaining.