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But—it’s well-known amongst both owners and experts that the Guzzi small blocks inherently don’t burn much oil
Do they make a simple extender for the V85TY? Or does the 850 motor have a larger oil capacity?
I presume the V85TY was a typo to mean V85TT. The sump extender will physically fit the V85TT motor. However, to get it to work, would takes a little work. The oil strainer/pick up would need an extension to reach up into the block to connect with the oil intake system. The smaller diameter boss on the spacer could perhaps be modified to connect the oil strainer pick up to the oil system intake in the block. It could also be removed clearing space for an extension to connect the strainer to the oil intake. It could be done but it will take some machine work. The sump spacers that were being sold cover dealing with the filter's new position with a spacer and longer bolt.I am guessing the oil resevoir capacity would go to about 3 quarts/lt.
Excuse my ignorance. Are you saying the V85 has a separate strainer/pickup attached to the block unlike the other smallblocks where the pickup is part of the oil pan/sump so a sump extender just provides an extension to the existing pickup passage? Yes, sorta. The V85 has a separate pick up made of plastic, with a strainer screen. item 11 page 51 https://www.af1racing.com/ProdImages/st3/GU312.pdf It sets where the strainer used to be on earlier small blocks. It goes to the side where the older sump pans had tubing that carried oil to the tube, leading to the pump. It has a "nipple with an o-ring that goes into a tube, I presume.V85 type strainer/pick up: https://www.ebay.com/itm/296921544105?_Or are you saying there's a difference in the pickup passage between the current or previous V7's and the V85 which is what makes the extender incompatible with regards to the pickup? sumps: V85 type interior https://www.ebay.com/itm/114679861406?_ Older sump: https://www.ebay.com/itm/257053755294?_ sump spacer: https://www.ebay.com/itm/126603173765This sump spacer comes with a longer filter screw and a longer filter spring. Some other spacers have a longer filter screw and a spacer for the stock filter spring.The filter remains stock and in it's stock place by using a longer screw and a spacer for the spring or the longer spring. Yes, the pickup passage on the sump extender is incompatible with the V85 pick up/strainer. One may be able to use that part with modification but I think it would be easier to remove the passage completely and make an extension for the V85 pick up. The o-ring on the V85 pick up sets about 1" above the top surface of the sump pan Or am I just completely missing what you're saying because I'm sitting in a brewery? Maybe. How many samples have you had?
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A small German company with a dedciated business for the small blocks offers this sump spacer:https://gpiu.de/oelwannenzwischenring-20mm-v9-v85tt-set.html
I am not sure what the point of increasing the oil capacity is, but if it is a good thing, wouldn't an external oil cooler along with the extra capacity of the cooler and hoses be the better solution?
1.7 l is not a lot of oil. My concern with my small block has always been The issue of breakdown under stress especially in severe duty, commuting and hot weather etc.
My main concern would be how low the sump would be. For street duty I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem, but any type of off-road rocks tree limbs etc I'd be concerned on a v85 for how low the sump would hang even with a bash plate.
This is a "whatever floats your boat" thread. Personally if it needed more oil they would have added it on one of the last redesigns.
1.7 l is not a lot of oil. My concern with my small block has always been The issue of breakdown under stress especially in severe duty, commuting and hot weather etc. That's why I've gone to a 3000 mile OCI on the Stornello with a full filter and oil change at 6,000 mi. My last change, because all of my stuff was still packed I ordered an oil change kit from AF1 racing. It came with the new spec Castrol 10W60. Prior to that I have been using the motul or liquimoly. Overall I have been more impressed with how the castor oil has held up than the other two. I have the sump extender but haven't put it on yet. One day perhaps. My main concern would be how low the sump would be. For street duty I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem, but any type of off-road rocks tree limbs etc I'd be concerned on a v85 for how low the sump would hang even with a bash plate.
