Bezzi / Barr Photoshop Phantasy Pthreadfest

[afulldeck]

Here's a concept that I'd seriously look at.


Sorry I know nothing about it but if Guzzi wanted a sports bike that stood out from the crowd this would do it IMO.

Too much tupperware that soils the look of the beautiful engine  >:( . I personally think the new designs need to focus directly on the engines.....  ;-T

[Murray]

Here's a concept that I'd seriously look at.


Sorry I know nothing about it but if Guzzi wanted a sports bike that stood out from the crowd this would do it IMO.

Too much tupperware that soils the look of the beautiful engine  >:( . I personally think the new designs need to focus directly on the engines.....  ;-T

I don't think this bike would have the air cooled Vtwin something more along the lines of a water cooled V8.

[Seagondollar]

And it has a "GASP" chain drive!

[Tom]

I was wondering when someone would point that out. ;D

[bad Chad]

The thing looks fantastic!  Harkins directly to the killer GP bikes of the 50s which Guzzi dominated.

Not sure how practical of a design, with so much plastic out over the front axel, but sure looks Speed Racer cool!

[Murray]

And performance thats a bit more than pretty good for an aircooled Vtwin. If the Guzzi/aprilia engineers got all excited they could have a hyabusa killer on their hands!  :o

[Guzzibrat]

This may have been posted before but here goes.
http://www.coseguzzistiche.it/rsdesign.php?lang=it

Steve

[lti_57]

Very nice link  here are a few i like

[Mark West]

Hmmm. Look familiar?

[Carl Allison]

Oberdan Bezzi McDeeb Hurricane

I think it would look good too with an SB motor.  ;-T

[Aaron D.]

They owe Craig Vetter a royalty. Maybe Royal Enfield for the engine. Certainly Adobe for the Paintshop.

[Travlr]

I was thinking of buying a Stelvio, but I have some issues with the bike like the tall seat, small tank etc.

I was thinking of tweaking my Breva 1100 toward the "scrambler" style and get most of what I need.

But I need some suggestions for the best way to proceed.  (or give up and buy a Quota/Stelvio)

Tires: This seems easy.  Lots of 90/10 stuff out there.

Exhaust: It seems there are 3 possibilities: Stelvio - Quota - Scramber prototype.  Any thoughts?

Skid plate: ?

Ground clearance issues: ?

Your thoughts are welcome.

Mike

[rdbandkab]

raise that front fender!

[Travlr]

It really depends on what you want the bike to do that it doesn't already do and what compromises you are willing to live with.

As an example you have concerns about high seat height on the Stelvio and about ground clearance on the Breva. You can't get both, you have to compromise. Are you really going to be jumping logs on what is a pretty heavy bike, or is it the look that appeals?

It's the versatility of the Adv. tourer that appeals.  The possibility of exploring dirt roads/dual tracks when on tour.

M

[rocker59]

The new Stelvio has an 8.5 gallon tank...  

For the Breva, you could start with a set of Stelvio wheels and some Heidenau K60 Scout tires.

[actwin]

 I've thought about trading my B1100 for a Stelvio. The more I think of the things I can do with the Stelvio the more I realize the Breva does the things I feel are important to me. I really have no need to take a 600+ lb. motorcycle off road in Ohio unless I'm in southern Ohio. The seat height thing is tuff too, mostly with a passenger up that high. I do like the more stretched out roominess of the Stelvio but so far that's not worth a change for me. I hope you do this project, it sounds interesting.

[rdbandkab]

Here's the Ducati Monster off roader -

[JohninVT`]

I have a friend who owns a BMW RT.  He refuses to allow the wheels to touch gravel because, "It's not made for that.  That's what the GS is for."  He's a friend...but not a close friend.  I try not to slap him when he says dumb shit like that.

The only thing stopping you from riding on a gravel road is you.  There are more options for tires in 17" than there ever used to be.  Scorpion Sync's would be a good choice.  I used to ride all over VT and NH on hard packed gravel roads when I had my 1200 Sport.  A Stelvio bash plate would bolt right on your Breva.  Swap out the Breva bars for a set of Sport risers.  Then you could use a Renthal Fatbar in something like an ATV mid-bend.  The Stelvio handguards would fit but I'd probably go for a set of Tusk D-Flex or Barkbusters.  Stucchi crash bars for the Norge would give you the most crash protection. 

That's about as "scrambler" as I'd go with one.  Making it any more dirt worthy than that is going to hamper its' on road manners.  On smooth gravel...it would be great.         

[rocker59]

  There are more options for tires in 17" than there ever used to be.  

That's true.

Continental has released the TKC80 in 120/70-17 this year.

[bad Chad]

Ground clearance on the Breva is not to bad to start with anyway, don't know the exact number, but it is quite a bit more than many motorcycles.

[Stretch45]

Good idea, I take my B1100 everywhere, dirt roads, beaches it handles them no problem.

You could look at the GTR high muffler from Guzzi Tech......

http://forum.guzzitech.com/store/product/73-gt-r-mufflers/category_pathway-29.html

I have the Mana bars on mine but you would want to go higher as the riding position is not ideal when standing on the pegs, bars are too low.

The sump guard thingy that is on the Breva does a good job of bouncing rocks off but you may need something more substantial if off roading all the time. Johns Ideas are the way I would go.

Tyres, yep lots of choice there. The wheels on the Breva are pretty hardy, I have hit some big potholes and gone over some pretty rough terrain here in Christchurch after the earthquakes (best way to get around with flooded roads and most of them like sand dunes after the liquifaction) and they have stayed true.

The Breva is an amazing all rounder, looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

The ground clearance for Breva is 185mm according to the manual.

Oh and don't forget to do the CARC breather mod before submerging the rear end in water.

Stretch




90 Mile Beach NZ last Summer

[Kentktk]

Apparently these Triumph pipes have been modified to use on a Guzzi to make a Scrambler type.

[skippy]

There is no reason not to take your bike on the occasional dirt road, even with "Street" tires.
I rode my Breva up and over Old Fall River Road in Rocky Mountain National Park last summer much to the amusement of the Japanese tourists whom I recruited to take my picture.
www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/old_fall_river_road.htm
Skippy

[rocker59]

I'm going that way, next time I'm passing through the park!   ;-T

[Rainman]

A 1200 Sport or even an early Norge would be better a better starting point. They have the lower gear ratio's in the transmission and a little more low end torque.

For the Breva, you could start with a set of Stelvio wheels and some Heidenau K60 Scout tires.

The tire sizes on the new Stelvio's are way better on dirt & gravel than the Breva's.

The Stelvio rear tire is taller and would make the Breva even higher geared than it already is.
With the taller front tire it would surely give it to much trail and would need the Stelvio forks or some that are offset forward like the Stelvio's to reduce the increased trail.

Properly setup I think a 2V Breva Dualsport  would be a very capable / fun bike. ;D

[fitzz]

do you have more info on the triumph pipes?

[rocker59]

do you have more info on the triumph pipes?

There is at least one V7 Cafe Classic running around with custom headpipes and the Triumph mufflers.

This was posted in the "V7 Crap" thread.  I PMd the guy over at ADVrider, but no response:

[Caffeineo]

I really like this MG scrambler.  :drool

Too bad it is not in production. The stock bike will take you more places than you would want to go. But it will be a great project.

[rocker59]

I really like this MG scrambler.  :drool
 

That's not a "MG Scrambler".

It's Photoshop Phantasy Art by Oberdan Bezzi.

[Travlr]

I really like this MG scrambler.  :drool

Too bad it is not in production. The stock bike will take you more places than you would want to go. But it will be a great project.

Very tasty!

M