Author Topic: California 1400 Merged Threadfest (Read 749326 times)

Kev m · « **Reply #1860 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:13:24 PM »

Quote from: LowRyter on July 20, 2012, 03:09:42 PM

it looks like cruiser feet-forward riding position. Looking at the photo, I am pretty certain it's water cooled and has a vulnerable oil cooler close to ground.

You're either really funny or completely nutz.

Didn't we hear with certainty from inside sources it was air/oil?

And I still don't think that looks any more forward than the current Cali or MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE a Harley dresser - it's certainly no where near the position of a Victory or Softail with forward controls on footpegs.

But I guess we'll know more for sure soon enough.

Maybe even sooner than later as this is a great sign... (i.e. that it is nearing production).

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #1861 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:18:18 PM »

What's up with those spotlight mounts sticking waaay out there? ???

Kev m · « **Reply #1862 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:27:15 PM »

Maybe i'm nutz our just optimistic. As for the cooling method too many sources I trust have said it was NOT water...but time will tell on all counts.

Mark West · « **Reply #1863 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:29:23 PM »

I'm reserving judgement till I see one in the flesh, but from the pics I've seen, the controls do look more forward than previous california models. Knowing clever Guzzisti, someone will work out a rearset kit to take care of that.

Kev m · « **Reply #1864 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:32:55 PM »

More forward than current Tonti Calis....yeah perhaps, at least in comparison to the motor. But that's still not as bad as bikes like the Vrod, Softail Custom, Victory Hammer etc.

bigbikerrick · « **Reply #1865 on:** July 20, 2012, 03:51:07 PM »

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on July 20, 2012, 03:18:18 PM

What's up with those spotlight mounts sticking waaay out there? ???

Yeah, Really, thats exactly what I wondered.....also that front end sure seems to have alot of rake in the side view. surely looks like they went for the "boulevard Cruiser" look. Though not the way I would do it, I still think its Cool , with lots of attitude.

I bet that torquey beast will pull your arms out of their sockets!

Rick.

rocker59 · « **Reply #1866 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:39:55 PM »

I like it. Looks badass.

I'd need drag bars and rearsets to be comfy on it, but I'm glad they're going to have another California in the lineup soon.

It's sure to be a nice bike.

Idontwantapickle · « **Reply #1867 on:** July 20, 2012, 04:55:45 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on July 20, 2012, 03:27:15 PM

Maybe i'm nutz our just optimistic. As for the cooling method too many sources I trust have said it was NOT water...but time will tell on all counts.

I think Kev is right, it has to be air cooled. Just look! The tank has melted around the heads!
Seriously though I am stoked to see a new California.
Hunter

Jim 06B1100 · « **Reply #1868 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:09:14 PM »

In the broken English of my grandfather....."attsa nice a bike". I mean it Nonno spoke that way...

I loved it when I first saw it and I love it still. As to the riding position....seems to me from the first picture that Kev M posted that it is slightly forward of a standard motorcycle...as to the mounting of the driving lights....reserving judgement until I get another view.

Jim

Nick · « **Reply #1869 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:11:46 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on July 20, 2012, 03:32:55 PM

More forward than current Tonti Calis....yeah perhaps, at least in comparison to the motor.

Looks like 5-6 inches forward (in comparison to the jugs)

leafman60 · « **Reply #1870 on:** July 20, 2012, 05:52:26 PM »

It's not my kinda bike but I am liking it more. Footboards right in line with left, rearmost cylinder, not overly forward. Look at the rake on those forks, though. The thing ought to be stable at speed. No, it is not water-cooled.

Kentktk · « **Reply #1871 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:02:36 PM »

I like it a lot. Much more a man`s motorcycle compared to the rather feminine aspects of the current V7.

Chicago Mark · « **Reply #1872 on:** July 20, 2012, 06:46:29 PM »

OK, you guys are killing me. Anyone wanna a super sweet white Griso 8v for a super sweet deal? This bike calls to me more and more every time I see it.

All the best,

Mark

rocker59 · « **Reply #1873 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:01:25 PM »

The only thing that's a real turn-off for me is the crazy LED array all over the rear fender.

A simple tail light as seen on the Bassa/Special or on the V7 Classic would sure look better.

1Sourdough · « **Reply #1874 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:03:30 PM »

The picture from left quarter shows the ends of the mufflers and they seem tiny for an engine of its size. Can anyone shed light on what the diameter of the exhaust pipes needs to be on a 1400? Perhaps there's a benefit from maintaining back pressure, or something like?

Moto · « **Reply #1875 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:11:43 PM »

Quote from: 1Sourdough on July 20, 2012, 07:03:30 PM

The picture from left quarter shows the ends of the mufflers and they seem tiny for an engine of its size. Can anyone shed light on what the diameter of the exhaust pipes needs to be on a 1400? Perhaps there's a benefit from maintaining back pressure, or something like?

The same complaint was made regarding the small muffler outlets on the original V7 (V700), by Americans, according to G. Field, Moto Guzzi Big Twins. Guzzi then changed them to bigger outlets to satisfy the perceived need. Maybe they'll do that again!

1Sourdough · « **Reply #1876 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:30:55 PM »

So we're accustomed to seeing larger outlets than what are really needed? It's not totally surprising but is news to me. I always thought the outlet size was closely related to what made the particular system work most efficiently for the engine involved!

Stretch45 · « **Reply #1877 on:** July 20, 2012, 07:37:00 PM »

Looks like they raided the Vespa exhaust stock..... no noise no joy, the Italians used to be the masters of making engines sound good....

Not sue you will hear anything from those exhausts, and can't see much air coming out a tiny hole like that.

Na it's not my cup of tea.....

Stretch

Dave Swanson · « **Reply #1878 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:10:57 PM »

I'd ride it with pride!!

Kev m · « **Reply #1879 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:22:23 PM »

FWIW, I like it more n more...

Chicago Mark · « **Reply #1880 on:** July 20, 2012, 08:51:27 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on July 20, 2012, 08:22:23 PM

FWIW, I like it more n more...

+1 ;-T

Same here Kev m.

Mark

Moto · « **Reply #1881 on:** July 20, 2012, 09:23:13 PM »

Quote from: 1Sourdough on July 20, 2012, 07:30:55 PM

So we're accustomed to seeing larger outlets than what are really needed? It's not totally surprising but is news to me. I always thought the outlet size was closely related to what made the particular system work most efficiently for the engine involved!

Your last sentence is true, I believe. But it is still possible for a manufacturer to accommodate the buyers' preconceptions even at the expense of the intended performance, I suppose. I think we may indeed like bigger outlets than are needed. Think how many cars with big V8's have had a single modest exhaust pipe.

I actually kind of liked the small openings precisely because they reminded me of the small ones on the original V7 (V700). And I also liked the straight pipes more than the usual modern style that angle up; maybe a larger capacity set of saddlebags is in the offing.

Kev m · « **Reply #1882 on:** July 20, 2012, 09:29:10 PM »

It doesn't even have to be at expense of performance since what matters is the restriction point which could be concealed before the final ( and likely is).

ken farr · « **Reply #1883 on:** July 20, 2012, 11:47:40 PM »

...am I seeing bag mounts or carriers on the side?

kjf

Popeye · « **Reply #1884 on:** July 21, 2012, 02:42:02 AM »

Just paint or anodize the insides of the exhaust pipe outlet and you'll never notice the actual diameter of the outlet. I like the looks of it so far, but I agree about the stupid looking tail-lights, that looks like an idea they got from a Aprilia Atlantic scooter.

Gnigma · « **Reply #1885 on:** July 21, 2012, 05:04:47 AM »

It LOOKS pretty. I'm withholding judgement on a couple of things--- the light bar, and the rear lighting, mostly. I still believe the boards are awfully far forward. I'd like to get a look at the right side and the brake pedal just to see how hard it would be to move the boards back some.

leafman60 · « **Reply #1886 on:** July 21, 2012, 05:12:34 AM »

Regarding the pipes, I am certain that several aftermarket suppliers will be on this, pronto. Unless you live in California (and maybe even there), you'll have a choice of several mufflers to produce and depper, more mellow tone from the big twin.

Ditto what somebody else said about the led tail lights. A more-unified design element here would look better to me.

Overall, though, I'm liking it better.

Kev m · « **Reply #1887 on:** July 21, 2012, 05:23:59 AM »

Absolutely agree on the taillight, but hey look at the bright side, maybe this one won't break or melt. :BEER:

leafman60 · « **Reply #1888 on:** July 21, 2012, 05:32:01 AM »

Several nice-looking oem tail lights are out there and could be grafted onto the Cal14. I know, I know but it is a possibility.

Chicago Mark · « **Reply #1889 on:** July 21, 2012, 07:12:48 AM »

Guzzitech has a third picture not posted here at http://forum.guzzitech.com/forum/download.html?id=4271&mode=view This one also isn't very clear but it does show the bike in motion. That being the case it gives the best shot so far of where your feet are under way. "feet forward' yes, but certainly not in a dramatic way IMHO.

So, someone, check out my beautiful white 2009 Griso 8v so this baby can actually stand a chance of making it to my garage when it's available.

Mark

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