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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2460 on: November 13, 2012, 09:54:52 PM »
Who will be the 1st to fit the thing up in a Griso?
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2461 on: November 14, 2012, 05:07:09 AM »
Pete, parts list is online. Nothing I didn't expect. The roller cams we have seen in the 8v lists are there now. New belly pan, and a fan behind the radiator. 
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2462 on: November 14, 2012, 11:27:47 AM »
Sorry if I missed it while trying to catch up on this thread, but I didn't see anyone mention the 743 lb curb weight  :o
I guess that is still lighter than a lot of bikes in its market segment, but certainly a lot heavier than its predecessor.

Ref: http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/11/13/eicma-2012-moto-guzzi-california-1400/

Although not my type of bike, I think they hit a home run with the new Cali for its intended market segment.   IMHO, it is a gorgeous bike, and I hope it sells very well and makes lots of money for the mother ship so they can keep making their great bikes we all love.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2463 on: November 14, 2012, 12:03:10 PM »
Sorry if I missed it while trying to catch up on this thread, but I didn't see anyone mention the 743 lb curb weight  :o
I guess that is still lighter than a lot of bikes in its market segment, but certainly a lot heavier than its predecessor.


We covered it a week ago/a couple of pages ago.

It's more for sure (and more than I wanted to see) but let's put it in perspective:

Wet weights:

Harley 1200 Sporty 585 lbs

Black Eagle                 589 lbs

Cal-Vin                      616 lbs

Victory Judge          ~ 700 lbs

Harley FLD                 718 lbs

CAL 1400               750 lbs

Honda Valkyrie Tourer  776 lbs

Triumph Rocket III      797 lbs

Victory Crossroads  ~ 800 lbs

Harley Road King        812 lbs

Harley Ultra               911 lbs

Honda Goldwing       904-933 lbs

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2464 on: November 14, 2012, 12:34:46 PM »
 I never imagined that I would ever ride a bike as heavy as my Vintage, but my paradigm adjusted quite easily.  Its not like the old days when big bikes skated around on cheesy tires, brakes, and under-damped suspensions.  I've been surprised more than once with some really chunky behemoths (the Valkyrie comes to mind). I expect the new Cali will handle with grace and aplomb.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2465 on: November 14, 2012, 12:41:17 PM »
http://youtu.be/kntB0YAZUeg

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« Reply #2466 on: November 14, 2012, 03:42:16 PM »
So what's with "Teen Age Wasteland" as the background music???????

Maybe the target market is boomers like me. 
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2467 on: November 14, 2012, 04:00:31 PM »
you mean "Baba O'riley"?


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New Cali. 1400 pics. and Video's!!!
« Reply #2468 on: November 14, 2012, 05:57:43 PM »
Here's a link for new pics of the Cali. 1400 dressed and undressed. When the link opens up hit the next button on the upper right to scroll through the pics. I'm liking this bike more all the time!!! ;-T ;-T ;-T ;D ;D ;D ;-T ;-T ;-T

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=452654694798865&set=a.135191723211832.26219.131361833594821&type=1&theater

Also a couple of very nice video's from over at Guzzi Tech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As7gXM5FVrQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZt1wZWYizw

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Re: New Cali. 1400 pics.
« Reply #2469 on: November 14, 2012, 06:27:47 PM »
Nice pics thanks.  What is the sporty looking one with ALBA on the side?

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Re: New Cali. 1400 pics.
« Reply #2470 on: November 14, 2012, 06:33:38 PM »
 ;-T nice
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2471 on: November 14, 2012, 08:09:22 PM »


I wonder if that display is more reliable than the Breva 1100 / Sport 1200 Display?   ::)
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2472 on: November 15, 2012, 03:12:25 AM »
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2474 on: November 15, 2012, 06:30:24 AM »
Looking at the CAD files in that gallery, looks like it might be a rubber mounted engine?  Red parts in the pictures.

Don't know if it had been mentioned anywhere else....
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2475 on: November 15, 2012, 07:05:13 AM »
Looking at the CAD files in that gallery, looks like it might be a rubber mounted engine?  Red parts in the pictures.

Don't know if it had been mentioned anywhere else....

I've read in a couple of the translated articles that the engine is rubber mounted.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2476 on: November 15, 2012, 07:07:04 AM »
I've read in a couple of the translated articles that the engine is rubber mounted.

I must have missed that, but it would help explain the weight gain.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2477 on: November 15, 2012, 07:15:52 AM »
V- Also -V
I had a chance today to look at the frame and motor manual, 3" thick, book!!  Holy Tomolli, rubber mounted motor & trans, roller rockers, cams have a spring to keep no end float.  Kind of a cool bike, you can crab the frame. Peak torque at like 2750 rpm and hp is at 6500, looks like a stump puller and a 200 rear tire.  AND it's coming.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2478 on: November 15, 2012, 07:29:58 AM »
I've read in a couple of the translated articles that the engine is rubber mounted.

Yes, the engine is rubber mounted.  Finally!  Great news, and you can read about it here. http://california.motoguzzi.com/features/en

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2479 on: November 15, 2012, 07:33:42 AM »
Complete gallery, with details.
http://www.animaguzzista.com/index.jsp?sito=animaguzzista&linkPagina=18763&lingua=it


     As usual, Anima Guzzista does an awesome job. The pictures on their site are the best I've seen yet.

Thank you for the post and the link,

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2480 on: November 15, 2012, 07:48:02 AM »
Back to the irregular-shaped headlights.

My BIL came by the other night to pick up his Kawi Versys (which was hiding from Sandy in my garage) and when he started the bike I noticed something I'd not noticed before - there appeared to be additional lights in the rectangular sides of the headlight. I don't know if that is to make him more visible during the day or to cast better light on the road at night, but it was noticeable.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2481 on: November 15, 2012, 07:57:19 AM »
Yes, the engine is rubber mounted!  You can read about it here. http://california.motoguzzi.com/features/en



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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2482 on: November 15, 2012, 08:04:34 AM »
Dang, that white one is darn good looking.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2483 on: November 15, 2012, 09:12:55 AM »
I didn't like it so much naked, but it's the bomb with the bags and shield!

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2484 on: November 15, 2012, 10:25:21 AM »
I really, really like this bike. I am very interested in the touring version and there is a high probability that I will buy one next year. It of course depends upon the price. I would like to see $18,000 or less for the touring version, but I am guessing $18,999. The new Gold Wing F6B lists for $19,999. The HD Road King is $17,699 and the RK Classic is $19,999. The feet forward bias of most HD's turn me off. The new Cali and the Gold Wing appear to have moderate foot controls, probably a little more forward than my EVT, but not much. Yeah, I really like this bike.

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2485 on: November 15, 2012, 11:08:09 AM »
Just saw it in person today for the first time.  What a beast!!!  Not my kind of ride, but it certainly looks better in person than in pics...

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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2486 on: November 15, 2012, 11:57:22 AM »
I keep going back to look at the matte black roadster and wondering if a Dart flyscreen could be fitted...
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2487 on: November 15, 2012, 02:45:38 PM »
There was a question about max total weight, including bike and all you load on it: 547 kg (1205.93 lb)
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2488 on: November 15, 2012, 02:59:26 PM »
http://www.tlm.nl/

Hot news from Mandello del Lario; the California 1400 went into production! At this moment the factory is as busy as a bee producing the first units of the California 1400! The earliest deliveries will take place in Novembre already! The California 1400 will be equiped with some of the latest technological developments, like ride-by-wire throttle control, ABS and Traction control. The current 1200cc 8valve engine has been redesigned and the engine capacity has been increased to 1400cc.
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Re: *California 1400 Merged Threadfest*
« Reply #2489 on: November 15, 2012, 03:28:32 PM »
Also this from the Teo Lamers website:

At first, the California 1400 will be produced in the most luxurious version available, but in limited numbers. At a later point in time, the other versions will become available. Approximate export prices will be (VAT and € 399 preparation costs not included):

€ 13.600    California Custom
€ 15.000    California Touring
€ 15.800    California Full Touring

As a straight conversion from Euro to USD, that's

$17,384
$19,173
$20,196

Plus dealer fees.

Yikes!  I was kinda hoping to see US prices around $2K less than that.  As I understand it, Euro "export" prices are not the same as US prices, so there may still be hope.

Also, the "security system" is standard only on the top-of-the-line model, so it must be something more than a coded key.
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