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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #210 on: March 16, 2012, 02:33:18 PM »
$31k and $37k!!! :o Plus they've dropped one of the most hyped features, the direct injection. All I can say is good luck to them... 
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #211 on: March 16, 2012, 02:51:06 PM »
$31k and $37k!!! :o Plus they've dropped one of the most hyped features, the direct injection. All I can say is good luck to them... 

Surprised to not see ABS or traction control (I may have missed both).  I figure the buyer of a $30K motorcycle may want those features considering the competition has such things along with lots and lots of luxury farkels like radios and keyless entry, interior lighted luggage.


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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #212 on: March 16, 2012, 03:15:06 PM »
I remember when they used to call that bike the Honda ST1300.  ;D

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #213 on: March 16, 2012, 04:00:51 PM »
Most have been following the Motus since before last year's Daytona presentation. This is the first they have announced pricing. It's about $5-7k above my budget for the base model.

This bike has a great weight, power, and range. Exactly what I've been looking for in a US built bike. Too bad they priced it out of a lot of people's range.

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #214 on: March 16, 2012, 04:08:56 PM »
My kind of bike, and, I really wish them well with it, but... at that price, I'm out.
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #215 on: March 16, 2012, 04:48:31 PM »
Oh, goody. A Guzzatiha! How underwhelming.

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #216 on: March 16, 2012, 05:44:30 PM »
Almost $40,000 for a bike with Givi bags ?

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #217 on: March 16, 2012, 06:15:06 PM »
I like it. My wallet doesn't.   :'(
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #218 on: March 16, 2012, 06:27:41 PM »
too bad about the chain.
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #219 on: March 16, 2012, 06:46:47 PM »
The sound of this bike is nothing short of intoxicating, and I love the looks of the naked model.

However, my budget is capped at around $15k for a bike, and I would prefer shaft-drive.

Still, this is likely the most exciting American bike produced in the last, ohhhh I dunno, 109 years or so. Something fresh and full of potential. I wish Motus nothing but the absolute best, and pray that these prove reliable and that the well-off snatch these up to allow for research and development and production of future models that are more affordable to the masses.

I'm still holding out hope for Buell/EBR, but right now I've got most of my attention on Motus. Imagine if both companies succeed, and 5-10 years from now we have multiple American motorcycle manufacturers with a full range of models to choose from, from nakeds to tourers to sportbikes to dual-sports/adventure bikes and motards.  :drool It'd be nice to be excited about American bikes for a change.
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #220 on: March 16, 2012, 06:52:26 PM »
I don't think the price is out of line. It's actually less than I expected for a ground up entirely new design. I wish them well.
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #221 on: March 16, 2012, 07:10:09 PM »
My FJR1300 is too damn fast as it is....prolly why I don't ride it much! :+=copcar
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #222 on: March 16, 2012, 07:37:08 PM »
This is at Barber's last fall. The Motus guy picked my friend Norm out of the crowd (because he's vertically challenged) and bet him that he could sit on the bike flat footed (he could). Great sounding bike, the odds are long against them,hope they make it--I love diversity!

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« Reply #223 on: March 16, 2012, 07:58:42 PM »
Yeah, I sat on it too. the front of the seat is very narrow. That's the reason for being able to flat foot it. I got to start it up and make vroom vroom noises. It makes good ones..
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #224 on: March 16, 2012, 08:16:49 PM »
very nice. i dont understand why the 30 000 dollar version wouldnt come with the ohlins. if ur gonna spend 30 wouldnt you feel stupid ? 30 should be the price of the r version.

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #225 on: March 16, 2012, 08:36:01 PM »
too bad it is out of any reasonable price range.  Once the Leno's get theirs, i doubt they will make it.

I was interested, but not now.  Also the dealer network is too thin.  And I thought Guzzi network was weak.
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #226 on: March 16, 2012, 09:37:14 PM »

Still, this is likely the most exciting American bike produced in the last, ohhhh I dunno, 109 years or so. Something fresh and full of potential. I wish Motus nothing but the absolute best, and pray that these prove reliable and that the well-off snatch these up to allow for research and development and production of future models that are more affordable to the masses.

Are you kidding??  They already did their R & R and now they want limited production and a high price point!  The expensive stuff is now behind them and if they have the tooling to produce it and they should do just that.  Produce a bunch of them at a price that will sell.  This price point is way too high for the masses.  With that engine, they should think about a race bike not a tourer.  Who needs those horses for touring.  It's overkill.  Ducati is producing more horses at a 23k price tag for a two cylinder.  I love what they did and what they were about, but they went American with their prices.  OUT TO GET A BUCK!  The difference between us and the Germans is that we are only in it for the $$.  Now Motus has proved that.  Sorry, but I was afraid of this.       
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #227 on: March 17, 2012, 12:35:56 AM »
1st the hype, now reality...........i t's official..........M otus prices start @ $31,000 !!!   :D   ::)
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #228 on: March 17, 2012, 06:57:28 AM »
At $37K I'm ordering an MGS/01.

Quite frankly, the Motus is a nice bike but it isn't that nice.
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #229 on: March 17, 2012, 11:30:53 AM »
Reminds me of an anecdote I read about someone talking to David Brown at a party and asking if they could get an Aston Martin at cost. His reply was that the cost price would be somewhat higher than retail.

I'd bet they're doing everything they can to bring the price down, but they don't have much in the way of amortisation options right now.

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #230 on: March 17, 2012, 09:33:58 PM »
Was it Christopher Morley or Henry Thoreau who said, "That man is richest, whose pleasures are cheapest"?  I love the design features of the Motus and the fact that it's made here in the USA, but I get endless pleasure from my two Stone Touring models; average cost ( I bought them in 2009 and 2011) under $5K each, many impressive upgrades by first owners and very low miles.  I'll fantasize about the Motus, ride the Stones without regret.  I hope Motus will survive and I believe they will.  There is always a stratum of society that can afford nice things, even during a difficult economy. 

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #231 on: March 17, 2012, 11:00:47 PM »
Campared to full blown Screaming Eagle from HD it may very well be a really good buy. Coworker was telling me about a neighbor of his just paid a little over 33k for one and was tickled to death!
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« Reply #232 on: March 18, 2012, 09:37:20 AM »
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #233 on: March 18, 2012, 10:12:20 AM »
Campared to full blown Screaming Eagle from HD it may very well be a really good buy. Coworker was telling me about a neighbor of his just paid a little over 33k for one and was tickled to death!

Talk to coworker about this comparison.  You might get some insight.  Could Harley exist with ONLY a $33+k bike?
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #234 on: March 18, 2012, 11:05:34 AM »
I like this bike a lot, but good luck selling it in any quantities in the marketplace. Only for the well-heeled... :o :o ;)
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #235 on: March 18, 2012, 01:19:48 PM »
Are you kidding??  They already did their R & R and now they want limited production and a high price point!  The expensive stuff is now behind them and if they have the tooling to produce it and they should do just that.  Produce a bunch of them at a price that will sell.  This price point is way too high for the masses.  With that engine, they should think about a race bike not a tourer.  Who needs those horses for touring.  It's overkill.  Ducati is producing more horses at a 23k price tag for a two cylinder.  I love what they did and what they were about, but they went American with their prices.  OUT TO GET A BUCK!  The difference between us and the Germans is that we are only in it for the $$.  Now Motus has proved that.  Sorry, but I was afraid of this.       

You don't think Germans or any other company recoups their development costs? Sorry but any company that doesn't will soon go out of business. The only difference with a small company or startup is that you have to spread those costs over a much smaller number of units. This is the big hurdle and why so many new motorcycle or car companies don't make it. They just don't have enough money to get past the small production phase where prices have to be high just to get back a fraction of what it costs to do all the development and testing. How many millions do you think Motus has spent and how many bikes can they sell?

I would bet that even if they sell a lot more bikes than expected, they won't make a dime in profit for several years. If they can sell enough to pay back the investors that paid for all the pre-sale costs, then perhaps they can put some of that money into increasing production and bringing the cost down. alternatively, they can look for a fat cat that is willing to give them a truck load of money and not expect any return for a long time.

I won't be one of the folks buying a bike at this price but I hope there are enough of them to get the company established. I like the concept and like that it's made in the U.S.
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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #236 on: March 18, 2012, 01:37:56 PM »
I wonder if it's just the forum. The demographics here being primarily old crotchety tightwads. Maybe over on the Goldwing forums they are saying what a great second bike this would make and that it's not too unreasonably priced. 

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #237 on: March 18, 2012, 02:34:28 PM »
Kevdog, no need to talk to him, he doesn't even own a bike. The fact that you can market a 30 something Harley Davidson kind of makes me believe anything is possible with the right marketing, advertising and image.
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« Reply #238 on: March 18, 2012, 03:16:41 PM »
Kevdog, no need to talk to him, he doesn't even own a bike. The fact that you can market a 30 something Harley Davidson kind of makes me believe anything is possible with the right marketing, advertising and image.

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Re: Motus merged threadfest
« Reply #239 on: March 18, 2012, 03:45:49 PM »
Watched some videos and the bike looks amazing!

 


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