2015 Moto Guzzi V7 II merged threadfest

[Rich A]

I really like these pipes (sorry if this has been posted previously):

http://www.70tre.it/kit_guzzi_scrambler_v70tre

Rich A

[tiger_one]

Really like the scrambler, great job!  Like the pictures of the shop they work in also.

[tiger_one]

I don't think its only that Kev. There is also the fact that any problem that occurs is far more likely to become a huge *Issue* in the US than it is in many other markets. Your market is a lot less accepting of any problems that may of been overlooked by during testing while at the same time being populated by many more, proportionally, who are either incapable of or simply choose not to research a purchase.

I'm not defending poorly developed products released before they should be but its that logic that probably means that the companies involved prefer to release their bikes elsewhere and delay their sale in the United States. If the shit hits the fan in say Australia or France it will be less damaging than if there is a huge, public panty-wadding episode in the US. YOMV.

Pete

I ran into that mindset on my purchase of the 1190 KTM, WOW, there was a bunch of people thought the sky was falling.  KTM did have a few problems with the 2013 model but the addressed them and fixed, but people still today think it is not fixed.  Tough to overcome internet noise when they get their stuff in a wad!

[bad Chad]

What kind of tires are they promoting for this kit?

[tiger_one]

Cycle World first ride.  Do they mean it will be here in the spring 2015, or spring 2016?

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/11/19/2016-moto-guzzi-v7-ii-stone-special-and-racer-motorcycle-review-first-ride-photos/

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Cycle World first ride.  Do they mean it will be here in the spring 2015, or spring 2016?

http://www.cycleworld.com/2014/11/19/2016-moto-guzzi-v7-ii-stone-special-and-racer-motorcycle-review-first-ride-photos/

Says late spring of 2015 in the US, but considered a 2016 model

[Demar]

I think I'm buying a scrambler model in June/July next year. That's the plan as of now. Is the current V7 a 50-state bike, emissions legal in CA?

[rocker59]

Says late spring of 2015 in the US, but considered a 2016 model

That's the way I read it:  Late Spring 2015 as a 2016 model...

"Look for the new Moto Guzzi V7 II to arrive in the US late next spring, as a 2016 model. "

[Kev m]

Is the current V7 a 50-state bike, emissions legal in CA?

YES

That's the way I read it:  Late Spring 2015 as a 2016 model...

"Look for the new Moto Guzzi V7 II to arrive in the US late next spring, as a 2016 model. "

Sounds about right and maybe that means they ARE getting faster about US intros.

IIRC my 2013 Stone arrived in December of 2012, now how long was it out in the EU before that? Surely not a full year?

[Demar]

YES

Thanks Kevm,  I'm looking to buy one in June of 2015 in Omaha and ride it back to CA. My brother-in-law is thinking KLR 650, and, I was considering one as well but I don't want a thumper and I love MG. We are planning to do fire roads and two-track but nothing very aggressive dirt-wise. I would outfit the V7II Scrambler as much as possible for fire roads/dirt and turn it into a mini-Stelvio as much as it can be.

[Loftness]

YES


Sounds about right and maybe that means they ARE getting faster about US intros.

IIRC my 2013 Stone arrived in December of 2012, now how long was it out in the EU before that? Surely not a full year?

I *believe* those Stones had been out in the EU for about a year prior to us getting them.  I was in the market for one at the time but didn't want one of the "V7 Classics".  I wanted the Black Stone, and found plenty of pics online, but couldn't get one here. 


I'm taking the article's information with a grain of salt.  I'd LOVE to have those here by late next Spring, but I haven't heard anything like that from Piaggio yet.  I wonder if he was told that time frame specifically or if he was making assumptions.

[rocker59]

I wonder how long the V7 Racer will only be available in black and chrome?

The traditional lime green (including tank) would look good on that bike.  

[Kev m]

I *believe* those Stones had been out in the EU for about a year prior to us getting them.  I was in the market for one at the time but didn't want one of the "V7 Classics".  I wanted the Black Stone, and found plenty of pics online, but couldn't get one here. 


I'm taking the article's information with a grain of salt.  I'd LOVE to have those here by late next Spring, but I haven't heard anything like that from Piaggio yet.  I wonder if he was told that time frame specifically or if he was making assumptions.

My memory is fuzzy on this already ( ::( ) but I SEEM to recall them being introduced as 2012 models in the EU, but was it a FULL YEAR from when they were introduced (was it 2011 EICMA or something like that?) until we received them?

Again, I got my 2013 M/Y in December of 2012, so that would mean they would have had to have been out in the EU by December of 2011 (as m/y 2012) for it to have been a full year?

I'm thinking the Cali 1400 made it here in less than a year too.

Either way, if the V7II was just announced and they honestly will be here by late spring (early summer?) 2015 that is quicker still and may be part of a trend towards quicker availability in the US, which is something people here bitch about PiaggioNA so that could be a good thing.

Always looking for the positive in these things.

[sib]

That's the way I read it:  Late Spring 2015 as a 2016 model...

"Look for the new Moto Guzzi V7 II to arrive in the US late next spring, as a 2016 model. "

That's what the article states, but I don't know how reliable it is.  My Guzzi dealer spoke to the US Guzzi distributor just after the V7 II models were announced in late September, and was told not to expect them to reach the US until late 2015, i.e., November.  I hope the article's right and the US distributor is wrong, or that the information has changed.  I'd like to get one next spring.

[Demar]

I wonder how difficult it would be to adapt the Stelvio fork and front wheel to the V7II Scrambler. There are a lot more dual-sport dirt tires in the 19" wheel size compared to the V7II 18" front wheel. The larger forks and perhaps a bit more travel would benefit the V7II Scrambler and help to differentiate it from the street oriented versions and upside down forks are nice in the dirt. That might have real value for the Scrambler and not just be "lipstick on a pig" changes. For trail work a 19" tire is better than 18" and Guzzi already makes the parts and could benefit from economy of scale.

[jacksonracingcomau]

This one near the mark for me, bags and box look good, obviously bags are slightly too far rear mounted to be right but on the money for sure.
Pipes look interesting,hope they're not just the burn your girls legs "scrambler" ones, could be a proper 2-1, any pics of other side ?

Suspension upgrade has to come but isn't front that's a problem, don't know if V50 swingingarm/drive box/UJ could ever give much more travel, they'll redisgn the lot methinks, hopefully with 2 sides to swingingarm.

For now it appears to be an HD "book of farkle parts" but potential is  there for a genuine long distance mid capacity traveller when /if they do suspension.
Ducati Scrambler looks nearer to it right now but immediately flawed by tiny tank, cross these 2 (with leather bags) and there's me.

[Cam3512]

It was the 2014 Special in the new colors that really peaked my interest in the line.  When they were announced, NO ONE could tell me when or if they'd ever make it to our shores.  Next thing you know they were popping up in early Spring of '14.  Ended up buying mine in April.

I just don't see the '16 models making it here in Spring of '15.  The '15's (no change-new Stone colors) hit the US earlier this fall, and there are still '15 models on the floor now.

But honestly, who the hell knows.

[Kev m]

It was the 2014 Special in the new colors that really peaked my interest in the line.  When they were announced, NO ONE could tell me when or if they'd ever make it to our shores.  Next thing you know they were popping up in early Spring of '14.  Ended up buying mine in April.

I just don't see the '16 models making it here in Spring of '15.  The '15's (no change-new Stone colors) hit the US earlier this fall, and there are still '15 models on the floor now.

But honestly, who the hell knows.

I almost remember when I used to be able to remember stuff...  :BEER:

I should search my old posts... was my Stone originally SUPPOSED to arrive in the fall, but finally showed up in winter? If that's the case it doesn't bode well.

But I remain an eternal optimist.

Still I wouldn't plan a summer bike trip on a new V7II this coming year.

[sib]

It was the 2014 Special in the new colors that really peaked my interest in the line.  When they were announced, NO ONE could tell me when or if they'd ever make it to our shores.  Next thing you know they were popping up in early Spring of '14.  Ended up buying mine in April.

I just don't see the '16 models making it here in Spring of '15.  The '15's (no change-new Stone colors) hit the US earlier this fall, and there are still '15 models on the floor now.

But honestly, who the hell knows.

Actually, there IS one significant mechanical change:  the '15's have wet alternators.  I've compared the parts books for the '15's and '13-'14's and that seems to be the only difference.

[jas67]

I almost remember when I used to be able to remember stuff...  :BEER:

I should search my old posts... was my Stone originally SUPPOSED to arrive in the fall, but finally showed up in winter? If that's the case it doesn't bode well.

That is the way I remember it too.

[jas67]

Actually, there IS one significant mechanical change:  the '15's have wet alternators.  I've compared the parts books for the '15's and '13-'14's and that seems to be the only difference.

Maybe they have more electrical output, good for heated gear.    Of course, I've never had charging problems with either of my V7's while running heated gear.  Though, the headlight brightness would go up and a down with the cycling of the heat controller, I'd certainly welcome more alternator output.

I'm thinking that the primary reason for the change to the wet alternator, is because it is a higher output alternator (which needs more cooling) to provide power for the ABS that is coming on the V7II.

I, for one, and looking forward to the V7III with its 65 HP motor (dreaming)!

[rocker59]

I, for one, and looking forward to the V7III with its 65 HP motor (dreaming)!

 :food

[Kev m]

Maybe they have more electrical output, good for heated gear.    Of course, I've never had charging problems with either of my V7's while running heated gear.  Though, the headlight brightness would go up and a down with the cycling of the heat controller, I'd certainly welcome more alternator output.

I'm thinking that the primary reason for the change to the wet alternator, is because it is a higher output alternator (which needs more cooling) to provide power for the ABS that is coming on the V7II.

That was the speculation we all threw around a year ago when it was announced. Not sure if anyone ever looked further into it...

[rocker59]

This one near the mark for me, bags and box look good, obviously bags are slightly too far rear mounted to be right but on the money for sure.
Pipes look interesting,hope they're not just the burn your girls legs "scrambler" ones, could be a proper 2-1, any pics of other side ?

In other pictures, that bike is shown to have the scrambler exhaust.  There is only one pannier, the one shown on the left.

http://www.garagemotoguzzi.com/it/stile/legend/

[drlapo]

65 HP would be fun but the HD 883 has 39 HP + 150 more pounds
I've ridden "with" HD riders on my V7 and it does annoy them when I pass them

[Sheepdog]

There is a pretty flattering "first ride" article about the V7II in the new issue of Cycle World. It seems that at least one enlightened staff writer has put aside his/her horsepower obsession and recorded an appreciation of the bike's balance and overall goodness. The repositioned engine and lowered foot pegs seem like cool refinements. I like the glossy red paint on the Stone, too...

http://touch.cycleworld.com/all/136199#1

[LaGrasta]

They must heard all of our mumbling.

[idahorider]

Article says it will arrive in US late next spring. Isn't that much earlier than previous info?
Paul Emerson

[tonUPRacer]

It's too bad they didn't improve the suspension, sounds like it made the traction control work overtime. Overall tho' a positive review and while I won't be trading in my V7 for a V7II, I can see where those who were on sidelines might now take the plunge.

[Loftness]

Cue the thread merge