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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2015, 07:43:28 AM »
 Well if it is daylight savings time that means you should be able to save it for when you really need it.
 Then have some days with 24 hours a day sunlight like I saw in the antarctic.
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2015, 09:55:15 AM »


 Great for folks who work inside , not so great for folks who work outside .

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Why wouldn't an extra hour of sunlight in the winter afternoon/evening benefit outdoor workers?

But I can go either way.  Just keep the time and don't change it twice a year.  Perhaps we should split the differnce and split it half and hour between ST and DST?
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2015, 10:16:35 AM »
Why wouldn't an extra hour of sunlight in the winter afternoon/evening benefit outdoor workers?

But I can go either way.  Just keep the time and don't change it twice a year.  Perhaps we should split the differnce and split it half and hour between ST and DST?

 Leaving the clock set on DST means it doesn't get light until an hour later , which means you have to work an hour later , no gain for the outside folks .

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2015, 10:18:19 AM »
it means you leave work an hour earlier while there is still light.  (of course you get up an hour earlier)

my point: if it's important to have an extra hour of evening sunlight in the summer when the sun is out longer, why wouldn't even be better to do it in the winter when the sun shines less?  Seems like we do it backwards.

2 weeks ago we had snow on the ground and last week the sun didn't go down until nearly 8 in the evening. WOW
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2015, 10:25:19 AM »
it means you leave work an hour earlier while there is still light.  (of course you get up an hour earlier)

my point: if it's important to have an extra hour of evening sunlight in the summer when the sun is out longer, why wouldn't even be better to do it in the winter when the sun shines less?  Seems like we do it backwards.

2 weeks ago we had snow on the ground and last week the sun didn't go down until nearly 8 in the evening. WOW

 John , it is still dark at 7 AM in Winter , how does moving the clock up solve that problem  ??? ;D

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2015, 10:29:49 AM »
all it means is that when a person gets off work at 5, he'll have an hour of more of sunlight than ST.  

My point, if you buy into this Daylight time nonsense, doesn't it make MORE sense to do it in the winter instead of the summer?

One thing for sure, folks on the eastern end of time zone favor DST more than folks on the western end of the same time zone.
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2015, 11:32:37 AM »
We could ignore DST on non-leap years. That would save time.


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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #67 on: March 17, 2015, 08:11:33 AM »
  The reason blue collar workers have as much as only doctors and lawyers used to have is because they bought it on credit.
 Most of them are spending 20 to 30 percent of their take home pay on interest.  They are selling their tomorrow for things they want today.
 Some day the chickens will come home to roost and it will probably be their kids that pay the bill in lower quality of life.

That's pretty much happening on a macro-economic scale with taxes/entitlements, etc in this country.    Add to that the crumbling infrastructure problem....

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #68 on: March 17, 2015, 08:28:22 AM »
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since it gets dark early in the winter, wouldn't it make more sense to keep DST in the winter?  And never change off it?

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2015, 11:14:30 AM »
If DST is so great why is it only used part time?
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #70 on: March 17, 2015, 11:55:10 PM »
I always cannot wait for DST as I finally have light after work to do things outdoors.
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #71 on: March 18, 2015, 12:18:32 AM »

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2015, 12:58:40 AM »
Interestingly, a bill has been introduced to keep New Mexico on DST:

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/legislature/daylight-saving-time-bill-clears-senate-faces-hurdles/article_cdd7fbda-8df9-540e-8877-379f89a8a11b.html

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This makes sense, since they are on the eastern edge of the mountain time zone.  And notice that Arizona and Indiana have posed the opposite (being on the western part of their respective time zones).  If NM could be combined with central time zone, we would be on our way to three time zone in the lower 48.  Consistent with the desires of Arizona and Indiana too.
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2015, 01:35:01 AM »
What's not to like. It forces everyone to get up an hour earlier to enjoy more daylight.

You know what they say about early birds eating worms!

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #74 on: March 18, 2015, 03:46:35 AM »
We Don't have DST in Queensland, But We made it a policy to start an hour early every day and finish an hour earlier so the employees can get their errands done in town before the shops shut.  :)
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2015, 07:42:03 AM »
OP here , uh , you guys do realize that DST doesn't actually ADD an hour of daylight   ??? ;D You folks that like it so much should just start work an hour earlier , let the rest of us sleep  :D

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2015, 08:55:05 AM »
OP here , uh , you guys do realize that DST doesn't actually ADD an hour of daylight   ??? ;D You folks that like it so much should just start work an hour earlier , let the rest of us sleep  :D

  Dusty

That's good in theory, but many people don't get to pick their working hours -- that is set by their employers (no gloating from the all the retired guys, or Kev M here).
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2015, 09:38:08 AM »
Some of you are quite the suspender snappers, complaining about a freaking hour.  Most of you probably have some sleep problem like sleep apnea or the like.  The hour should not make a difference.  It's not like any of you have been on a plane traveling for 14 hours.

Getting screwed up over an hour once a year?  Give me a break. :)
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2015, 09:45:57 AM »
Some of you are quite the suspender snappers, complaining about a freaking hour.  Most of you probably have some sleep problem like sleep apnea or the like.  The hour should not make a difference.  It's not like any of you have been on a plane traveling for 14 hours.

Getting screwed up over an hour once a year?  Give me a break. :)

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2015, 10:00:56 AM »
Next topic: Explaining the raison d'etre of a Discussion Board ..... It's so people CAN discuss this sort of trivia.   Where else can we talk about it?   In a Patent Office Report?   The 10-Day AccuWeather forecast?   The Memphis, TN police blotter?

Lannis, I do get the idea of a discussion board.  You need to chill out.  I did end it with a smiley.  :)
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2015, 11:49:37 AM »
 Yeah , you guys get along or I will nuke this thread (not really ;D) . Amazing that this topic has created this much interest  :o :D

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2015, 12:11:02 PM »
yes,

1.  No DST
2.  Three Time Zone in the CONUS
3.  35 hour work week

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2015, 12:20:41 PM »
Dusty, here's a thought.  For guys like you that work outside and such, just start your day when it gets light and end it when you get done or runout of light, or after 8 hours or whatever.  The retired folks can do the same, whatever pleases them.

Us inside working guys may not even know when it gets light out, but it sure is nice to not get home in the dark in the evening, during late fall/early winter.  I'm for DST all year long.

Extra note, our shop starts an hour earlier in the Summer so the factory workers can trade a cool morning hour for a hot aternoon one.  Most guys say they would like to keep Summer hours all year long, but management won't go for it.  It was a 65% to 35% for vote.
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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2015, 01:13:52 PM »
Lannis, I do get the idea of a discussion board.  You need to chill out.  I did end it with a smiley.  :)

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2015, 01:25:57 PM »
Dusty, here's a thought.  For guys like you that work outside and such, just start your day when it gets light and end it when you get done or runout of light, or after 8 hours or whatever.  The retired folks can do the same, whatever pleases them.

Us inside working guys may not even know when it gets light out, but it sure is nice to not get home in the dark in the evening, during late fall/early winter.  I'm for DSL all year long.

Extra note, our shop starts an hour earlier in the Summer so the factory workers can trade a cool morning hour for a hot aternoon one.  Most guys say they would like to keep Summer hours all year long, but management won't go for it.  It was a 65% to 35% for vote.

 Yeah yeah , easy for you to say  ;D John's 35 hour work week plan is a better solution  :D

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Re: Daylight savings crime
« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2015, 05:53:43 PM »
Left hand time, right hand time. It is too complicated for hands and fingers.

I suggest switching to feet instead!


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