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Offline Chuck in Indiana

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Dr. John's race bike..
« on: August 03, 2015, 05:21:42 PM »
Well, almost.  :smiley: This is the Kid's barn find very early Sport. (Some assembly required) There's a lot of Dr. John in it, though. It's serial number 37.
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The usual barn find detritus.. :smiley: easily cleaned up, and the tank is perfect. Mistral x over and mufflers.  :thumb:

The left footpeg could use a little blue pill, and the vise grip shifter needs some improvement. He already has them sourced.

Man! I *love* projects like this. His plans are to get it running and going down the road before deciding how much time and money he wants to spend on it. I'm thinking an early sport like this needs to be saved..  :thumb: It's bound to be rude, crude, and fun.. :laugh:
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 05:30:37 PM »
nothing special on it, the sandcast triple is stock. The daytona was a few years earlier. The sport carb is it's weak sister. But you can still have fun after cleaning it
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 05:36:57 PM »
nothing special on it, the sandcast triple is stock. The daytona was a few years earlier. The sport carb is it's weak sister. But you can still have fun after cleaning it

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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 05:53:10 PM »
All spine-frames are special !!!

 :grin: Absolutely..
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 06:45:18 PM »
Weak sister my ass!   It won't :) ave the rush of 8v, but weak, that just not reality.
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 07:04:11 PM »

Rude, crude and fun says it all!

And since it's not a Daytona he can beat the crap out of it with no worries.

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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2015, 07:10:41 PM »
Nice find!!! Lots of ways to treat the project.  I'd try and keep the racing roots...... AHRMA....
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 06:01:48 AM »
Wow Wee someone must have jumped on that one quick

Man...I was going to make a move on that, at least try. Snooze you lose!
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2015, 06:15:51 AM »
Man...I was going to make a move on that, at least try. Snooze you lose!

Looks like it didn't sell on ebay.  Might still be available. 
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2015, 07:29:34 AM »
I contacted seller...he has a deposit on it locally. Will know by weekend if deal goes through. He said for me to contact him Sunday with update. Maybe I can get this bike yet?
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2015, 12:44:12 PM »
Those look like D&D slip-ons, not Staintune.

Full Staintune system with Staintune carbon cans.

Rare when new.  Unobtainable now.  That's a $2500 exhaust system on that bike.

Bike looks new!

All is needs is some Keihin FCR41s to go with that exhaust system!

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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2015, 01:22:25 PM »
Not saying I couldn't be wrong I just don't remember the carbon Staintunes having the full wrap around hanger bracket. I thought they had the same style hanger bracket as the stainless version but it has been 20 years since they made them.........:boozing:
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2015, 01:25:56 PM »
Back to Chucks son and his barn find, is it a '95?
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2015, 02:05:41 PM »
Back to Chucks son and his barn find, is it a '95?

Yep.  Giveaway is the body-color fork lowers.

On the '96 bikes they were silver on all.
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2015, 02:07:01 PM »
Not saying I couldn't be wrong I just don't remember the carbon Staintunes having the full wrap around hanger bracket. I thought they had the same style hanger bracket as the stainless version but it has been 20 years since they made them.........:boozing:

Now you have me doubting my (feeble) memory.

Header/Crossover has to be Staintune, but I guess the cans could be something else.
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2015, 03:21:40 PM »
Yep.  Giveaway is the body-color fork lowers.

On the '96 bikes they were silver on all.

I *think* it's a 94?
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2015, 03:37:22 PM »
I *think* it's a 94?

'94 and '95 had the body-color lower fork legs.  '96 had silver.

The Carb Sport was made from '94 to '96, though I thought the '94 was particularly rare in the USA.  But they all are, I guess.

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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2015, 03:47:04 PM »
You'd think S/N 37 would be pretty early..
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2015, 05:45:18 PM »
You'd think S/N 37 would be pretty early..

Chuck, here are the production numbers for the Sports in case you were wondering. I would think you could narrow down the year with the VIN.

Sport 1100 Production numbers:

1994: 365
1995: 1,191
1996: 215

Sport 1100 IE

1997: 1,314

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1998: 200
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2015, 06:37:07 PM »
Chuck, here are the production numbers for the Sports in case you were wondering. I would think you could narrow down the year with the VIN.

Sport 1100 Production numbers:

1994: 365
1995: 1,191
1996: 215

Sport 1100 IE

1997: 1,314

Sport 1100 Corsa

1998: 200

Well, the VIN had a 1 followed by a bunch of zeros and 37.  :smiley:
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2015, 08:08:52 PM »
'94 and '95 had the body-color lower fork legs.  '96 had silver.

The Carb Sport was made from '94 to '96, though I thought the '94 was particularly rare in the USA.  But they all are, I guess.

My 95's are silver, more's the pity.

As to all spine frames being "Special"... couldn't agree more though some wane in their special-ness...
Like the ones using electro-metering induction with computer machines.
The ones with too many valves.
Oh, and the ones with the forks wrong-way-'round necessitating those odd ball mudguards.
Too, the ones where I can't see through the pork-chops.

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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2015, 10:49:12 PM »
Chuck, here are the production numbers for the Sports in case you were wondering. I would think you could narrow down the year with the VIN.
 

Yeah. 

If the 10th digit is an "R", it's a 1994.

If the 10th digit is an "S", it's a 1995.
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2015, 10:50:16 PM »
My 95's are silver, more's the pity.


What color is the bodywork on your bike?

As usual, exceptions seem to be the rule at Guzzi !!!
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2015, 12:55:25 AM »
Are you planning on pulling the gearbox for a looksee? I would, for a couple of reasons. Firstly the early Sport C's were smack in the middle of one of those 'Crappy Clutch Plate' episodes so it could go it's at some point.

Secondly there is the problem with the straight cut box. Some, but apparently not all had poor case hardening on some of the gears. Fifth was the most problematic and IMHO it's worth taking out the straight cut fifth on principle and replacing it with a later, five dog, or earlier, six dog, helical alternative.

On boxes I've been through I've found if the damage to fifth is addressed early by replacement it is unlikely that the damage will progress to the next stage where the primaries and third cry uncle. When that happens it's all over, endgame!

I used to not like the Carb Sports because of their issues but at the end of the day they really are a glorious, magnificent dinosaur and if I was to buy a spiney, (Retirement looms!) a Carb Sport would probably be my pick......

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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2015, 05:56:10 AM »
Just got a message from eBay seller...the carb sport has been sold.
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2015, 07:49:22 AM »
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Yeah, that's kind of the point. We're both antiquers, and feel this one should be saved. Thanks for the transmission info.. I'll pass it on.
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Re: Dr. John's race bike..
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2015, 06:15:06 PM »
My 95's are silver, more's the pity.

As to all spine frames being "Special"... couldn't agree more though some wane in their special-ness...
Like the ones using electro-metering induction with computer machines.
The ones with too many valves.
Oh, and the ones with the forks wrong-way-'round necessitating those odd ball mudguards.
Too, the ones where I can't see through the pork-chops.

Todd.

Hear! Hear! My thoughts exactly.

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