Author Topic: Anyone using Windows 10? (Read 72653 times)

jdgretz · « **Reply #180 on:** August 28, 2015, 11:00:15 AM »

I know in corporate circles, there is more than a little consternation on having upgrades/updates forced down rather than having an update server to push only those updates that don't break custom software. I haven't looked into it far enough yet to see if there is a way to shut off the auto update feature. I suppose when I get back from my vacation in DC it will be time to do that.

Overall, I think it's a reasonable upgrade, although I'd be happy to stay on W7 for a while longer - at least until the PhotoShop community gives a solid thumbs up to the change.

I'm curious to see if Microsoft goes to a subscription model on the OS or just on the application side of the house.

jdg

stormshearon · « **Reply #181 on:** August 28, 2015, 04:41:08 PM »

If you use the enterprise SKU, there will be other options for getting updates.

jackson · « **Reply #182 on:** August 28, 2015, 04:57:29 PM »

There is no compelling reason for my wife & I to move to Windows 10. I specifically ordered two new computers with Windows 7 directly from HP around 10 to 12 months ago because I wanted no part of Windows 8. Win 7 has served us well and by the time that Microsoft quits supporting it, I will probably be dead and gone. (I have very serious heart problems). If I'm still around when MS quits supporting it and we need new computers, I'll just buy new ones with Win 10 installed. I just don't see any reason to "upgrade" (if you can realistically call it that) from what works so well for us.
BTW: I have an identical cloned hard-drive for each of our computers in case of a total failure and if the motherboard went kaput on either machine, you can buy them, cheap.
My laptop also has Win7 and if it goes totally kaput, you can buy decent used ones on flea-bay & other places.
My Mac-Pro Desktop is a little over five years old and runs like the day I bought it. I also have two cloned drives sitting in the box in case of total failure because I have some very expensive software on that machine. What works for us; simply works and we feel no need to have the latest or greatest of most things that keep getting "upgraded"; many times, for the worse. YMMV

ITSec · « **Reply #183 on:** August 28, 2015, 05:53:17 PM »

Quote from: stormshearon on August 28, 2015, 04:41:08 PM

If you use the enterprise SKU, there will be other options for getting updates.

Problem is, the MS license structure makes the enterprise version unaffordable to most small and medium businesses, even if they need that level of control. Enterprise license agreements don't make sense till you have at least 500-1000 licenses, last I looked.

Kentktk · « **Reply #184 on:** August 28, 2015, 08:05:09 PM »

Quote from: jackson on August 28, 2015, 04:57:29 PM

My Mac-Pro Desktop is a little over five years old and runs like the day I bought it.

Same here.

Tom · « **Reply #185 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:31:35 PM »

My son won a Mac Pro laptop.

He's set for college.

Dilliw · « **Reply #186 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:41:56 PM »

I had an error on the last critical update (8/28) and it killed my wireless driver. Since that's how I connect to the Internet I had a terrible time resolving it because even system restore needed something from Microsoft and without a connection I was toast. I managed to log in, boot to the advanced startup, and finally get it to restore but it took hours. The update installed again today and this time there were no errors.

The point is that all of this software is connected and big brother is watching everything. Not a problem for me but for others with security concerns...

Zoom Zoom · « **Reply #187 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:57:03 PM »

That news cast you had a link to Tom gives you some food for thought. I realize one could argue that we are probably monitored more than we realize already, but still..............

(I'm assuming that you have seen that news cast by now?)

John Henry

Tom · « **Reply #188 on:** August 30, 2015, 01:49:59 PM »

Too late for me to worry about my privacy. I'm a state employee. I had to pass a background check to with the ex-offenders that I work with.

Besides I'm using Reynolds heavy duty aluminum foil for tin foil hat. I double layered it.

Zoom Zoom · « **Reply #189 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:25:08 PM »

Ah, cool. Shiny side out or dull side out?

John Henry

ITSec · « **Reply #190 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:41:46 PM »

Quote from: Zoom Zoom on August 30, 2015, 03:25:08 PM

Ah, cool. Shiny side out or dull side out?

John Henry

If you're trying to keep the radiation out, the shiny side goes out - if you're trying to focus your thoughts and concentrate, the shiny side faces in!

rodekyll · « **Reply #191 on:** August 30, 2015, 03:55:31 PM »

According to the betty crocker institute it doesn't matter*.

*true fact

charlie b · « **Reply #192 on:** August 30, 2015, 06:51:03 PM »

That's for when I want my brain to 'slow simmer' :)

Nope, no privacy on the net at all.

guzzimike · « **Reply #193 on:** August 31, 2015, 06:11:06 AM »

Well, this POS W-10 kept getting worse by the day...

So Yesterday it got so bad that my wife, who had installed W-10 originally and who kept trying bravely to make it work finally gave in to my urging to Shiite-can W-10. Yesterday afternoon she nuked and paved the garbage that is W-10 and re-installed our previous system.

All is good again, and I can accomplish an internet search for; say...a "Tungsten Recoil Spring Guide Rod for a Sig 9mm pistol" in under a minute instead of half hour, what with all the frozen screens and re-starts and all that time wasting crap which were the joy of having to work with that complete piece of shit that is Windows 10..

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rodekyll · « **Reply #194 on:** August 31, 2015, 06:20:39 AM »

. . . . so, other than that how was it?

I just got some Fujitsu laptops with fresh w7 loads. They claim to be compatible, so I've got the w10 upgrade scheduled for one. With luck it will be better than what you describe.

charlie b · « **Reply #195 on:** August 31, 2015, 08:41:07 AM »

It's interesting how on one machine it works fine and the other, not.

This cheap ASUS laptop is still doing fine with it.

But, I still won't upgrade the desktop (has my laser driver in it) until I know it is stable.

Dilliw · « **Reply #196 on:** August 31, 2015, 09:43:43 AM »

Quote from: charlie b on August 31, 2015, 08:41:07 AM

It's interesting how on one machine it works fine and the other, not.

This cheap ASUS laptop is still doing fine with it.

But, I still won't upgrade the desktop (has my laser driver in it) until I know it is stable.

I think it's because of the dependence of the Microsoft mother ship. W10 is doing a lot of background stuff and is constantly accessing your connection for who knows what. If your desktop has a solid connection then it should be fine.

ITSec · « **Reply #197 on:** August 31, 2015, 11:15:55 AM »

Quote from: Dilliw on August 31, 2015, 09:43:43 AM

I think it's because of the dependence of the Microsoft mother ship. W10 is doing a lot of background stuff and is constantly accessing your connection for who knows what. If your desktop has a solid connection then it should be fine.

Actually, there's good evidence that's not the case. My tablet is not consistently connected, and when it is, it has a relatively slow connection; however, it runs Win10 just fine. I also have reviewed the event logs to see when connections to MS are being made, and they are not that frequent (between once and four times a day, so far, as I have done the privacy protections I recommended earlier).

The big thing seems to be video and other device drivers. Some manufacturers are on the ball, some are not, and not all the generic drivers from Microsoft are really up to snuff. Video is a particular problem, since manufacturers may use a chipset from (for example) nVidia, they may not allow nVidia to deliver drivers for it, since they want to tweak them. OK for established operating systems, painful when moving from one OS to the next...

Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #198 on:** August 31, 2015, 12:13:24 PM »

I had some issues. Took the opportunity to reformat the disk and start fresh. Now not only am I enjoying Win 10, but I cleaned a lot of crap off the hard disk.
I think it is the process of updating a mystery machine that is the problem. Clean machines are less likely to have issues.

rodekyll · « **Reply #199 on:** August 31, 2015, 01:33:02 PM »

I've told customers for years that migrating from a loaded opsys to a new one yields the worst of both worlds. If there are problems with the existing load, malware or file corruptions, bad hardware/drivers, software incompatibilities, pllugged hard drive, etc, there will be problems with the upgrade.

Whenever possible I want to start with a fresh partition. For this particular upgrade campaign there doesn't seem to be a 'free' option for a clean load -- you're going to have to lay it over a previous version. So the closest you can get is a fresh load of your W7/8.x. I'm doing security erasures and w7 loads (with updates and hoped-for devices and software) to prepare for W10.

Kentktk · « **Reply #200 on:** August 31, 2015, 02:29:31 PM »

Quote from: guzzimike on August 31, 2015, 06:11:06 AM

Well, this POS W-10 kept getting worse by the day

Sorry to hear about your difficulties .

charlie b · « **Reply #201 on:** August 31, 2015, 04:11:23 PM »

Yep, it sounds like my old upgrade from OS9 to OSX :)

Tom · « **Reply #202 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:03:33 PM »

Quote from: charlie b on August 31, 2015, 08:41:07 AM

It's interesting how on one machine it works fine and the other, not.

This cheap ASUS laptop is still doing fine with it.

But, I still won't upgrade the desktop (has my laser driver in it) until I know it is stable.

I have a cheapie ASUS and it works okay. So it looks like I might update to Win 10 but I'm still reading the posts from everyone.

Tom · « **Reply #203 on:** September 01, 2015, 04:05:00 PM »

Quote from: Zoom Zoom on August 30, 2015, 03:25:08 PM

Ah, cool. Shiny side out or dull side out?

John Henry

I just make sure that there's olive oil involved. Dull side.

rocker59 · « **Reply #204 on:** November 10, 2015, 06:22:31 PM »

What's the latest on Win 10 ??

I'm still getting the pop-ups offering it to me free.

Have not taken the plunge, yet.

Bonafide Bob · « **Reply #205 on:** November 10, 2015, 06:43:56 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on November 10, 2015, 06:22:31 PM

What's the latest on Win 10 ??

I'm still getting the pop-ups offering it to me free.

Have not taken the plunge, yet.

I have been using it for several months and it seem to working great. When I first installed it I lost the use Street and Trips mapping program, but I tried installing Streets and Trips again recently and it is now working like it did before W10.

Bob

Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #206 on:** November 10, 2015, 08:10:44 PM »

I've installed it on three machines now. On the first, I had some issues, so I cleaned the disk and reloaded from scratch. Which was a good thing anyway. It is working well and I really like it. One ten year old machine I had to look around to find a good video driver for it to work well.
I still have my desktop with Win 8.1 which is on 24/7 acting as a web server. I've been too lazy to upgrade it. That is a winter project.

As always, backup before doing anything like this. Macrium Reflect is good for that job.

Tom · « **Reply #207 on:** November 10, 2015, 08:19:19 PM »

I jumped ship to it. I don't seem have any problems.

Randown · « **Reply #208 on:** November 10, 2015, 08:59:16 PM »

Two PCs from W7 & a laptop from W8.1, running OK for a month now.

In prep for the W10 installation, your pc is checked for adequacy / compatibility, I was asked to uninstall some old software to continue.

Both PCs would wake up at night, one at 1PM every day - easy fixes though, set mouse & ethernet drivers not to be able to wake PCs, switched off a scheduled task in computer management that was set to wake the pc every afternoon.

So not effortless but not painful either.

rboe · « **Reply #209 on:** November 10, 2015, 10:59:34 PM »

Thanks for the Slate link. Good stuff.

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Author Topic: Anyone using Windows 10? (Read 72653 times)

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