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Guzzi should make something like this
« on: August 16, 2015, 11:36:31 AM »
Guzzi could make something innovative like this as their first fully liquid cooled bike.

All it needs is a decent sized fuel tank.............no t the thimble full they've currently provided, and shaft drive, of course.

http://www.midual.com/midual-home/?lang=en



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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2015, 12:44:09 PM »
Less hp and torque, more weight and complication than an 8v griso, and chain final drive , no thank you. But the new bmw 1000 cc liquid cooled motor with 120 hp and wet clutch moved to the front for easy access seems like a winner.

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2015, 03:04:15 PM »
Hey that's pretty cool!

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2015, 03:17:29 PM »
It's good to see people are still having a go  :thumb:
There must be a bit of crap on the roads where it's made, the front guard is huge
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2015, 03:21:46 PM »
I can just see myself taking a spirited ride on my brand new Midual when I glance at the instruments.....wai t, that's just a tach in front of me...OK, now I see the speedo and all those other neat instruments...down between my legs...almost at my naval.  Humm, I can either look at the road or ponder my speed/oil pressure/amps/gas gauge/???.  Nope, does not make any sense at all.  This certainly looks like a well constructed adventure in burning money.

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2015, 03:22:55 PM »
Nice but I don't need another obscure bike, I have a boatload of MG's.  :thewife:  :laugh:
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2015, 03:42:17 PM »
I guess what I was getting at was, here is a small company in France creatively using an unusual engine layout.  Guzzi could do something similar, after all, they have built just about every engine configuation since 1921. 

A flat twin like this, an L-twin, a laydown triple - there are lots of ways they could retain their reputation for building funky, durable bikes while building something that would satisfy emissions requirements.

Personally, I would like to see a 650cc laydown, 4 valve OHC single, about 50HP, standard riding position and with a little more ground clearance than the NF, and perhaps a bash plate.  Naturally, it would have to have a whacking great external flywheel, with the emphasis on torque, not revs.  Yes, a Nuovo Nuovo Falcone.  Two or three of us might buy one.......

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2015, 04:13:11 PM »
  Yes, a Nuovo Nuovo Falcone.  Two or three of us might buy one.......

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More than two or three.  Especially if the Nuovo had a balogna slicer flywheel.

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2015, 04:36:46 PM »
ugly and expensive.  what could go wrong?
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2015, 04:58:45 PM »
:shocked:

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2015, 04:59:17 PM »
Quote
  Two or three of us might buy one.......

Ok, count me in. Am I number 3?  :smiley:
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2015, 05:26:03 PM »
And here I thought that "Hesketh" had gone out of business YEARS ago.

Looks like the concept is still alive and kicking; not sure about the motorcycles, though.

Skimmed the website, and although I didn't see anything about money, the references to "Sir So-and-So" and "Pebble Beach" and "Bespoke" are a dead giveaway that you'd better cash in some of those savings bonds that Grandma left you .....

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2015, 05:55:14 PM »
I will apologize in advance, so I am sorry.

Meh.

That front cylinder looks like a real good candidate for hydraulic lock on start up.....but I'm sure they've already taken care of that.


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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2015, 06:17:11 PM »
106 HP and 527 lbs with low RPMs would not be slow or boring at all. I like the look, don't like the panel of gauges. Seat too tall for me. Neat concept, not that it would get my wallet open. I like different, tho.
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2015, 07:03:52 PM »
If you Think Moto Guzzi's Dealer/service network is weak try this. People who will buy this machine will not ride it, read as J.Leno type, the instrument panel is your pathway to an accident. While checking on the bike's systems you could setting your self up to rear end or run off the road.

People that buy this have more money than they need. Try putting a tank bag on this tank/instrument panel, not to mention the "fine Corithan Leather"

Valve adjustments/ spark plug changes, fogetaboutit!

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2015, 08:59:06 PM »
I agree, we need more innovation , not less . This may not work , and probably won't , but how many folks thought Orville and Wilbur , or those French guys who were their competition , were gonna fail mightily ? Geez , most MC riders would have thought Chuckie is , er , eccentric , for putting an airplane motor in a motorbike .

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For the $200,000 that this bike is reputed to sell for, it SHOULD fly like an airplane across the English Channel, and then roll like a motorcycle when I want it to.

This is just a fantasy .... ?

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2015, 09:03:17 PM »
One of the uglist, cobbled together bike made.

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2015, 09:08:21 PM »

Personally, I would like to see a 650cc laydown, 4 valve OHC single, about 50HP, standard riding position and with a little more ground clearance than the NF, and perhaps a bash plate.  Naturally, it would have to have a whacking great external flywheel, with the emphasis on torque, not revs.  Yes, a Nuovo Nuovo Falcone.

Ditto for my fellow falconer!

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2015, 07:44:02 AM »
I agree, we need more innovation , not less . This may not work , and probably won't , but how many folks thought Orville and Wilbur , or those French guys who were their competition , were gonna fail mightily ? Geez , most MC riders would have thought Chuckie is , er , eccentric , for putting an airplane motor in a motorbike .

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2015, 08:39:52 AM »
I like it.  At $12-13k, it might sell about as many bikes as Guzzi sells Grisos.  Buy it?  Hell, I can't make myself bust into my IRA for a deeply discounted 2014 V7!  Too much in the garage already.  Too lazy to sell the Griso.  Too attached to sell the R100GS.  And the 1200 Sport is simply a keeper.
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2015, 11:53:51 AM »
The first 'tab' on the web site is labeled "Mindset".  Does that mean the bike is all in your head and you pay over $100k for the image of a bike?  :)

I guess that means I don't like it :)
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2015, 12:36:02 PM »
how many gallons of gas is that instrument array displacing?
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2015, 12:43:46 PM »
I'm in. Not sure about the gauges on the tank though. Tank bag would hide those. And the angle looks to be odd to read them; but over all, she's got some good stuff going on. :)
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2015, 02:56:29 PM »
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2015, 03:32:22 PM »
Hesketh is not out of business.  If fact I would rather have the new Hesketh.

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2015, 04:40:09 PM »
I'd ride that...yes I would.    :bike-037:
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2015, 05:23:20 PM »

To many gauges



It's even got a gauge to monitor all the other gauges..
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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2015, 07:40:23 PM »
If NASA engineers rode Guzzis we never would have put a man on the moon.

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Re: Guzzi should make something like this
« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2015, 07:50:45 PM »
It's even got a gauge to monitor all the other gauges..

I'll bet in some states checking the speed would get the rider ticketed for "texting while driving"!
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