Author Topic: would you ever buy a dealer's demo bike? (Read 11865 times)

DavidV7c · « **on:** August 19, 2015, 06:00:09 PM »

I'm in the market, possibly for either an Aprilla Caponord or the MG Stelvio. My local dealer has a Caponord 3,000 off because its their demo bike. The downside is I've been in there when the owners buddies show up and want a bike for a day and he flips them the demo bike keys. So some days someone is riding it like they stole it. But its 3,000 off.

Anyone ever work in a dealership? is a demo bike worth considering or am I crazy to even suggest it.

Tx
David

wrbix · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:09:14 PM »

Prolly means it's been run in correctly.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:10:46 PM »

You know what? Most people baby the crap out of their new bike. There's a tendency for them to take forever or *never* break in. I'm a believer in running them pretty hard when new.. YMMV, of course, and I'll get flamed for saying this.

But.. I'd put the 3 large savings in my pocket and smile if I was concerned about how much it costs. I seriously doubt that it's hurt.
Personally, I'd rather break in my own bike, though. <shrug>

Yeahoo Whoyah · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:14:46 PM »

For a dealers demo bike the factory warrantee doesn't kick in until it's sold to you, right? So you have that to fall back on if problems develop.

Perazzimx14 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:21:03 PM »

I have and would again. 2009 (bought same year) Ducati 848 had 600 miles for a sizable amount off sticker + it has $1000 Termignoni CF slip-ons.

wrbix · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:25:00 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on August 19, 2015, 06:10:46 PM

I'm a believer in running them pretty hard when new.. YMMV, of course, and I'll get flamed for saying this.

No flames here. Just your well considered aero background. They're all air-cooled O's after all.

pyoungbl · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:29:18 PM »

Short answer: YES.

I know for a fact that Ducati puts every bike on the dyno and runs it up in the rev range...not put-put-put but actually stressing the engine. Other manufacturers do the same. They need to make sure nothing is going to break right off the bat. For an owner to think he is breaking in a 'virgin' engine is foolish.

Like others, I use an aggressive break in procedure and my engines never burn oil. They all run like a scalded ape. I'm much more aggressive than your dealer's buddies! The difference is that I then change the oil at 100 miles. That's probably overkill but $50 well spent as far as I'm concerned. The plan is do to full throttle runs in 2nd-5th gears, up to about 6K rpm..coast down...and do it again...and again. After about 15 minutes of this let the engine cool. Then do it again. You want the rings to seat really well. All the other drive train stuff will settle in just fine.

My only concern would be for the clutch. If somebody was abusing the bike by pulling wheelies they might wear the clutch. Hey, $3K would make a big difference for me. Guzzi has a similar deal through the end of the month..new bikes, not demos.

Peter Y.

DavidV7c · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:32:04 PM »

all good replies. I was thinking that a proper thrashing as long as it's not dropped or tires spoiler, is just what a fresh bike needs. if reviewers are taking it they can't risk performance so it will be looked after. I'm going to give it a test drive. tx all

rocker59 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:34:42 PM »

Yes.

At the dealership where I worked years ago, staff would put the first few hundred on the demo bikes to make sure they were run-in properly.

Some customers hammer the Hell out of demos, but most don't. Our demos got most of their miles from staff.

If the bike is in good shape. If the price is right. Sure.

Idontwantapickle · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2015, 06:57:48 PM »

Yes

Twice. An 85 BMW K100RS and my current 2007 Norge. It all worked out OK.

lorazepam · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2015, 07:21:33 PM »

Yes. My V7 is a demo, and I got it with 185 miles, and 3k off msrp. Buying in February when it was 25 degrees outside helped with the price.

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2015, 07:34:54 PM »

just think you'd have an even more exclusive bike than a STELVIO.. who buys that Capo? I've never seen one on the road.

look for a demo Stelvio instead.
reviews I've read on the Capo were pretty bland but I never rode one. I do know a bunch of Buell Uly riders have gone to the Stelvio and seem happy.

LowRyter · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2015, 07:42:43 PM »

so long as the 600 mile service was done and the thing looked clean, I would get one at a good price.

Dean Rose · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2015, 07:59:19 PM »

My first Guzzi was a dealer demo, buy the bike.

Dean

Vasco DG · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2015, 08:37:12 PM »

I think the Capo is the most boring bike in the universe. Also make certain it isn't in the recall range for the output shaft replacement, that's a HUGE job and the dealer gets squat for it from warranty. Other than that 20,000 km service will be pricey as hell.

Pete

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #15 on:** August 19, 2015, 09:21:37 PM »

Quote from: Vasco DG on August 19, 2015, 08:37:12 PM

I think the Capo is the most boring bike in the universe
Pete

that's what I was trying to say.

Johncolleary · « **Reply #16 on:** August 19, 2015, 09:27:20 PM »

My Stelvio was a demo had 500 miles on it. got a good price and they did the 500 mile service before I picked it up. I did have an electrical problem that was taken care of. I would do it again.

bad Chad · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2015, 10:11:35 PM »

I have, and I would again. I think the Capo is a pretty cool bike, for someone to claim its the most boring bike on the planet, just means they didn't think their statement through. Perhaps the motor is not a visceral as some, or reeks of the character of a Guzzi, but boring??? Those that this that, have not ridden many late model bike from Asia.

segesta · « **Reply #18 on:** August 19, 2015, 10:20:17 PM »

Yes, my California 1400 Custom was the demo bike. I got a good price, and didn't pay for setup or the first service.

davevv · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2015, 10:58:07 PM »

My '08 Norge was a 2 year old demo with ~3k miles on it. Still took another 5k miles for the engine to really break in. It was a great bike and I never had a problem with it. I'd do it again.

bobbyfromnc · « **Reply #20 on:** August 20, 2015, 12:31:29 AM »

Mine was a demo with 1500 miles on it. 2012 MG norge purchased with full MF warr in 2015. Buy the bike.

Vasco DG · « **Reply #21 on:** August 20, 2015, 01:52:07 AM »

Quote from: bad Chad on August 19, 2015, 10:11:35 PM

I have, and I would again. I think the Capo is a pretty cool bike, for someone to claim its the most boring bike on the planet, just means they didn't think their statement through. Perhaps the motor is not a visceral as some, or reeks of the character of a Guzzi, but boring??? Those that this that, have not ridden many late model bike from Asia.

I thought it through thoroughly and stand by it. Aprilia make some fantastic motorbikes. In my opinion the Crapponord isn't one of them. Oddly enough a lot of the people I find myself at odds with on other issues also find themselves at odds with me on this. Sorry. I'm not willing to change my opinion which is that the Cappo is a huge, Bubbling bucket of faeces and I'd rather stick my privates in a macerator and pour sulphuric acid on the remains than own one. If I ever have to ride another one it will be an eternity too soon! It's a horrible, tedious prick of a thing that needs shit-canning so Piaggio can free up some funds for Guzzi!

Pete

malik · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2015, 03:28:13 AM »

Quote from: Vasco DG on August 20, 2015, 01:52:07 AM

I thought it through thoroughly and stand by it. Aprilia make some fantastic motorbikes. In my opinion the Crapponord isn't one of them. Oddly enough a lot of the people I find myself at odds with on other issues also find themselves at odds with me on this. Sorry. I'm not willing to change my opinion which is that the Cappo is a huge, Bubbling bucket of faeces and I'd rather stick my privates in a macerator and pour sulphuric acid on the remains than own one. If I ever have to ride another one it will be an eternity too soon! It's a horrible, tedious prick of a thing that needs shit-canning so Piaggio can free up some funds for Guzzi!

Pete

I don't think he likes that bike.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2015, 07:05:27 AM »

^^^^^^ You may be right.

drw916 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 20, 2015, 08:18:15 AM »

I think Pete is only luke warm towards it. I've heard much worse from him on other bikes.

segesta · « **Reply #25 on:** August 20, 2015, 08:37:32 AM »

Quote from: Vasco DG on August 20, 2015, 01:52:07 AM

I thought it through thoroughly and stand by it. Aprilia make some fantastic motorbikes. In my opinion the Crapponord isn't one of them. Oddly enough a lot of the people I find myself at odds with on other issues also find themselves at odds with me on this. Sorry. I'm not willing to change my opinion which is that the Cappo is a huge, Bubbling bucket of faeces and I'd rather stick my privates in a macerator and pour sulphuric acid on the remains than own one. If I ever have to ride another one it will be an eternity too soon! It's a horrible, tedious prick of a thing that needs shit-canning so Piaggio can free up some funds for Guzzi!

Pete

"But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"

Loftness · « **Reply #26 on:** August 20, 2015, 08:47:31 AM »

Yes I would. Most of the people that demo our bikes seem to just want a basic feel for it. They don't ride around like they're trying to steal it. And really, most people WOULDN'T want to ride aggressively on a demo for fear of damaging the bike and then having to fork over cash.

tonUPRacer · « **Reply #27 on:** August 20, 2015, 09:06:25 AM »

I bought my Monster as a demo, no issues. Would do it again if I found the right bike. Agree with what most others have said, I'd say if its the bike you want at the price you can afford, buy with confidence!

cloudbase · « **Reply #28 on:** August 20, 2015, 10:50:16 AM »

Without hesitation, as long as the dealer has something of a decent reputation.

jackson · « **Reply #29 on:** August 20, 2015, 11:05:14 AM »

Quote from: Vasco DG on August 20, 2015, 01:52:07 AM

I thought it through thoroughly and stand by it. Aprilia make some fantastic motorbikes. In my opinion the Crapponord isn't one of them. Oddly enough a lot of the people I find myself at odds with on other issues also find themselves at odds with me on this. Sorry. I'm not willing to change my opinion which is that the Cappo is a huge, Bubbling bucket of faeces and I'd rather stick my privates in a macerator and pour sulphuric acid on the remains than own one. If I ever have to ride another one it will be an eternity too soon! It's a horrible, tedious prick of a thing that needs shit-canning so Piaggio can free up some funds for Guzzi!

Pete

Come on, Pete; tell us what you REALLY think about the "CRAPPONORD".

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Author Topic: would you ever buy a dealer's demo bike? (Read 11865 times)

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