EICMA 2015 - New V7 Roamer/Bobber and MGX-21 Bagger The photos are rolling in.

[Xlratr]

I'd go for the fat tyre version (shorter rear fender), but I'd prefer it with the white tank and the chrome exhausts.

[jas67]

So, if EICMA doesn't start until the 19th, where do the pics and announcement:
http://www.moto.it/news/eicma-2015-moto-guzzi-v9-roamer.html

come from?    Moto Guzzi's international page is still showing the dark, almost silhouette picture.

Is the moto.it page just speculation, or was there an actual announcement from Moto Guzzi?

[Dogwalker]

Is the moto.it page just speculation, or was there an actual announcement from Moto Guzzi?

The images are evidently the kind given to the press by the firm itself.

[Kev m]

So, if EICMA doesn't start until the 19th, where do the pics and announcement:
http://www.moto.it/news/eicma-2015-moto-guzzi-v9-roamer.html

come from?    Moto Guzzi's international page is still showing the dark, almost silhouette picture.

Is the moto.it page just speculation, or was there an actual announcement from Moto Guzzi?

These are obviously press shots of the type Guzzi usually uses.

FWIW we used to get press kits weeks (sometimes months) before the public embargo date where we were allowed to publish the pics or information in them.

Sometimes a particular publisher doesn't play by the rules.

Other times someone purposely leaks them.

[Calijackalbob]

hmmm. The "Roamer" just looks a bit wrong. Like the Bellagio in its original shape.
This looks better to me. (Even with an as yet unpainted tank.)




But then, it's my baby. I have to like it. 

[Arizona Wayne]

I like your black crash bars.   Black is stealthy.    I have black CBs from UK on my CX100 and you hardly notice them.   But when you need them you have real protection, not half/assed like fin fenders, which I  have had break on me when really needed. 

[tiger_one]

I like the look of the white bike a lot better.    The narrow front tire looks "right."    As for the fuel tank shape, Meh.    I'm thinking I'd still like it better with the V7 tank, though, the bike as a whole is starting to grow on me.

I'm axious for the official reveal at EICMA.

Me too, now for the specs.

[rocker59]

 

That's a really nice looking vintage-styled standard roadster.   

I like how they've lifted the tank and seat to show off the horizontal top rail of the frame.

I also like the lowered footpegs, thanks to yet another lower frame rail modification by the factory.

And, I like the rear fender better on this one, than on the fat-tired black version.  Better lines, to my eye...

[pauldaytona]

And also to get the v7 Stornello, as scrambler.

The stand Moto Guzzi will also present the new V7 Stornello II , which retrieves the name, style and technique (color, pattern tires and an exhaust top) of the very first Italian motorcycle turned into scrambler in the 60s and 70s, to Starting from Stornello original.

The new V9 Bobber debuts 2015 edition of the Milan Show EICMA. Bobber wants to attract a younger dynamic and aggressive , taking part in the topics presented by Audace 1400. Hence the look minimalist and essential, the livery monochrome total black and 16-inch wheels with tires Oversized that show more muscular and sporty.
The technical material is fully shared with the sister Roamer, with a fast, lightweight chassis that houses the V-twin cross from 850cc to 55 horses and 62Nm available mainly only 3,000 rpm, to provide for a lively but relaxed at the same time. Particularly cured superstructure and finishes , with fine painting on the tank (strictly metal) and precise welding and work well on the frame.
Again great attention to the standard equipment with ABS, traction control adjustable (and can be disabled, if you were to feel they need), but also the USB socket to recharge the phone or connect it to the Multimedia Platform Moto Guzzi MG-MP option, which connects the control and instrumentation of V9 smartphone pilot, offering different functions of monitoring and control of the bike, but also the ability to share on their social channels your trip.
Of course endless list of customization available, along the lines of ' operation Garage Guzzi V7 dedicated to that ... without much imagination we imagine easily enlarged successfully to the new V9.

[Unkept]

That's a really nice looking vintage-styled standard roadster.   

I like how they've lifted the tank and seat to show off the horizontal top rail of the frame.

I also like the lowered footpegs, thanks to yet another lower frame rail modification by the factory.

And, I like the rear fender better on this one, than on the fat-tired black version.  Better lines, to my eye...

It makes me think of the 850 T.. Tank shape and pin stripes, 850cc, seat shape a bit, side panel shape, a "standard" that has been made to fit many people's needs.

[jas67]

The technical material is fully shared with the sister Roamer, with a fast, lightweight chassis that houses the V-twin cross from 850cc to 55 horses and 62Nm available mainly only 3,000 rpm, to provide for a lively but relaxed at the same time.

62 Nm, that's only 45 lb*ft of torque.   And 55 HP?   Only 5 more than the V7?    I'm not impressed.

I am starting to like the looks of the white V9 Roamer.   The Bobber?  Meh.   I mean, it looks good for what it is, just not my thing.
I do see it as a good bike for Moto Guzzi to have in the lineup.   It should appeal to the same crowd that would buy the Yamaha Bolt, or 883 Iron.

Of course endless list of customization available, along the lines of ' operation Garage Guzzi V7 dedicated to that ... without much imagination we imagine easily enlarged successfully to the new V9.

I wonder if any of the customization options let you make it look like a V7?    I'd love to see the ability to make it look like a 750S or 1000S.   Of course, I'd want it to be a green 1000S, thus, the frame would need to be repainted green.

[Yan]

(Sigh!) Another step down the slippery slope towards abjectly awful. What a shame that Piaggio have chosen to turn Guzzi into a parody of what it once was.

Yes, obviously Piaggio doesn't want to cannibalise its own Aprilia sales by making daring, fast, modern Guzzi's.  I guess in their wisdom they have decided to turn MG into a brand for "hipsters" & "cruisers", while keeping Aprilia for the "fast and furious".  Only remaining overlap is the "traveller". Will they choose for the Stelvio or the Caponord?   

[BRIO]

I think it is a lazy design...

[Unkept]

I'm waiting to hear about a V9 Racer, etc. Also wondering with bated breath about the heads. Hemi or Heron? I hope Dogwalkers source is right. DW often is... Thanks for that.

Come on new frame, USD fork, V9! ;) (I know I'm kidding myself)

[jas67]

I'm waiting to hear about a V9 Racer, etc. Also wondering with bated breath about the heads. Hemi or Heron? I hope Dogwalkers source is right. DW often is... Thanks for that.

Come on new frame, USD fork, V9! ;) (I know I'm kidding myself)

Well I'm not sure where PaulDaytona got his data, but, if the V9 is only 55 HP, then I'd definitely say the heads are Heron.

V7 Racer with USD fork?   Bring it on!

[Doppelgaenger]

I'm glad to see the styling of the heads on the V7 didn't make it over to the V9, those heads are among the ugliest part of those bikes

[rocker59]

Now that we have a name I guess it should have its own thread.


V9 Roamer thread:

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=80063.0

[Dogwalker]

Well I'm not sure where PaulDaytona got his data, but, if the V9 is only 55 HP, then I'd definitely say the heads are Heron.

55 hp were reported in a first version of the article on Moto.it, then it was cancelled. Is still reported on Motorbox.

http://www.motorbox.com/moto/magazine-moto/moto-novita/moto-guzzi-v9-bobber-le-prime-foto

Effectively, 55 hp (49-50 at the real wheel) are what can be expected by a heron head 850, while, with an hemi head, about 58 hp at the rear wheel are more likely.

[Dogwalker]

Only remaining overlap is the "traveller". Will they choose for the Stelvio or the Caponord?

Since the Stelvio is untouched from 2011, it seems that they have already decided.
That's a shame, since the Stelvio had decent sales, while the Caponord total production can be measured in " a few undreds".

[Demar]

Since the Stelvio is untouched from 2011, it seems that they have already decided.
That's a shame, since the Stelvio had decent sales, while the Caponord total production can be measured in " a few undreds".

I'm still hoping for a 900 Stelvio. The Cap is a newer model. Hopefully Piaggio is content with both their 1200 Dual Sports for now and will develop a 900 Stelvio. As MG has this newly developed motor I can see development in a MG mid-weight DS. I don't think Piaggio will sell as many Caponords as Stelvios as the NTX was first to market.

[Kev m]

The technical material is fully shared with the sister Roamer, with a fast, lightweight chassis that houses the V-twin cross from 850cc to 55 horses and 62Nm available mainly only 3,000 rpm, to provide for a lively but relaxed at the same time.

I gotta be the lead cheerleader for the V7 not NEEDING MORE POWER.

But man, if you're gonna go ahead and put a bigger motor out there, how in gawd's name do you only bump it 5 hp?!?!?

WTF?

COMPLETE let down.

The main attraction of this was going to be to see if it was at least a Scrambler competitor...

55 hp were reported in a first version of the article on Moto.it, then it was cancelled. Is still reported on Motorbox.

http://www.motorbox.com/moto/magazine-moto/moto-novita/moto-guzzi-v9-bobber-le-prime-foto

Effectively, 55 hp (49-50 at the real wheel) are what can be expected by a heron head 850, while, with an hemi head, about 58 hp at the rear wheel are more likely.

Well, I guess I'll reserve judgment until the official specs (and maybe some tests are out), BUT CONSIDERING THE SCRAMBLER IS 70 RWHP even 60 rwhp would be lacking somewhat for the competition. So if this means it's only going to be 50, MAYBE 55 rwhp... that's still a let down.

I'm glad to see the styling of the heads on the V7 didn't make it over to the V9, those heads are among the ugliest part of those bikes

Wait? WHAT? You mean you don't like the heads on the 1TB? Cause the heads (what you can see, i.e. the fins) seem more like the 2TB V7. Unless you are talking valve covers? Or maybe you just like the way the black fins with polished edges and black jugs look?

[blackcat]

I think it is a lazy design...

Wake me when something interesting happens.

[bad Chad]

Perhaps the 55hp was referring to RW HP?   Though that would not seem to follow their usual practice of quoting crank shaft hp.   But then again, the number has been pulled, perhaps a misprint, maybe 55 lbs of torque?

How big is the motor really?  Is it an 850, or closer to 900cc?  How big can you take a small block?  Is this really a small block, or an all new mid block?     OK answering my own questions,  it appears to be an all new motor around 850cc.
I do like the look of the Roamer.  Not so much of the big tired black one.  But to me everything looks pretty good, like R59 says, a good looking retro roadster.   And yes, I do see the resemblance to the 850T.

[Vasco DG]

I was wondering if the parts lists were up yet but the Piaggio website is down for 'Extraordinarily Maintenance', (The mind boggles!). It will apparently be up again on the 16th.

Pete

[Xlratr]

I was wondering if the parts lists were up yet but the Piaggio website is down for 'Extraordinarily Maintenance', (The mind boggles!). It will apparently be up again on the 16th.

Pete

Probably the same translation agency that did "The myth is back" for them! 

[MariusD]

I'm officially in love.

What V7 who?!

I really want this bad boy now!

[bad Chad]

Can't wait to see the v9 Bobber vs Bolt vs 883 brawl!

[davedude]

Moto Guzzi aren't the only Italian moto company to make such a monstrosity.   Ducati saw Guzzi's Nevada, and raised them with ugly wheels.


Both kind of remind me of the early Honda Shadow, and some of the other "chopper parodies" of the 80's.

The Nevada is better looking than than all the ones its been compared to, and anyone that takes one out for a little thrashing will agree that it's a great handling little thing. No, it ain't much to look at, but it works real well. How many of those Florida/Nevadas did MG sell around the world? (Note: Including the Indiana, that's four states) Someone liked them. Anyhoo, I have one I'm taking out for a few miles every 2 weeks (or 4) and it's great fun. it's been all over Texas, La, Ms, Al, Fl, and Ar. It's still under 20K mi.

Back to the v9; I really think that white one is hittin' on something. A good looking aftermarket seat, windshield, and luggage along with 5 gal or better tank would do it for me. An observation: the top rail on this bike, like on the big tontis, limits seat design and discourages aftermarketers like the staple, Mustang.

[pauldaytona]

Well, what is important to consider, new models should be Euro 4, and isn't that easy to get, so maybe thay had to keep power down to be able to get ist done.
Also the type of bike should be a torque/ low rev bike. High revs make more noise.

For the Audache to get in euro 4 complaint, they had to add air injection in the exhaust. So that will follow on all california's. Lets see if the other 1200 get an upgrade, or leave in a year.

[Cam3512]

To include a V7 II "Stornello Scrambler"...

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2015/11/13/manufacturers/moto-guzzi/four-new-moto-guzzi-models-to-debut-at-eicma/