I hear you but I tried the expensive gel pad into the foam, more foam,sheep skin and it all helped, but I didn't like the look of a plumped up seat and the vibes still got to me.... I really like old Triumphs, working on them is a pleasure...My rider claims I have a mental connection with the race bike....My shop is not complete without a Brit bike....But I ride an old rowdy Buell now and like it alot better....