New Victory Coming

[rocker59]

Why such a pessimist today?

They did say plot the direction of the brand... meaning they are looking to make some changes. That doesn't preclude something more, uhhh, standard.

Time will tell.

I, and a bunch of sporty bike people, thought they would release the 156 bike in a form close to what the race bike was.

It was a big let-down to see what they showed with the "156" moniker at the show.

The negative tone is just disappointment.

Polaris/Victory/Indian is kicking ass, and I am glad to see them doing well. 

[Chuck in Indiana]

^^^^^ yeah, me, too. I was expecting "performance bike.."

[oldbike54]

^^^^^ yeah, me, too. I was expecting "performance bike.."

 Just curious , what in the history of Polarindianvictory made you guys think they will ever build a performance bike ? That market is fairly small , and the competition is tough .

  Dusty

[rocker59]

Just curious , what in the history of Polarindianvictory made you guys think they will ever build a performance bike ? That market is fairly small , and the competition is tough .

  Dusty

Oh, you know...  Victory's race team and PR machine?

http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en-us/project-156

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/29/victory-motorcycle-project-156-race-report-pikes-peak/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FpNU8bFAqU

[oldbike54]

Oh, you know...  Victory's race team and PR machine?

http://www.victorymotorcycles.com/en-us/project-156

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/06/29/victory-motorcycle-project-156-race-report-pikes-peak/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FpNU8bFAqU

 Well yeah , but wasn't that really just for marketing purposes . HD spent millions on the VR1000 racebike , and we got the Vrod , which even the Harley guys won't buy . At least PIV had the good sense to only spend what it took to mount a hillclimb effort . My guess is the only "fast" PIV we are gonna see is a flat track derivative , using only the Scout motor . That only takes about 100 HP to be competitive .

  Dusty

[Kev m]

I, and a bunch of sporty bike people, thought they would release the 156 bike in a form close to what the race bike was.

It was a big let-down to see what they showed with the "156" moniker at the show.

The negative tone is just disappointment.

Polaris/Victory/Indian is kicking ass, and I am glad to see them doing well.

I know, but THIS isn't a release, it's a concept built by a swiss bike builder.

I mean Marzocchi forks, Ohlins suspension, Monobloc Brembo, etc.

But don't get caught up in the fact that Victory will continue to make cruisers, just the fact that they're making anything with this means it should be different enough from the Scout to maybe be something more interesting.

And even if they do come out with a modern Victory cruiser version of the Scout, that doesn't preclude them from coming out with something more sporting in the future.

Time will tell, be an optimist.

[rboe]

Well then, here's hoping Indian will come out with a water cooled twin that Guzzi should have done, style it right and we can all buy American again. 

Or Victory. I ain't picky. 

[Red07]

I'm excited to see where this concept bike will go with Polaris/Victory/Indian.  I would prefer a bike with the ergos of the race bike though.  The concept bike ergos remind me to much like the Harley Vrod Night Rod Special.  Nice to look at, but a torture rack to sit on.  A long reach to both the pegs and bars. 

Randy

[Chuck in Indiana]

I'm excited to see where this concept bike will go with Polaris/Victory/Indian.  I would prefer a bike with the ergos of the race bike though.  The concept bike ergos remind me to much like the Harley Vrod Night Rod Special.  Nice to look at, but a torture rack to sit on.  A long reach to both the pegs and bars. 

Randy

All I can say is, " uh...yeah."

[blackbuell]

I am already thinking about my next new bike purchase: it will likely be a light weight sport-touring machine with a relatively low seat height (at least not as high as on all of the new pseudo-adventure bikes like the YAM FJ-09), maybe 80-90 rear wheel HP, very nibble, and full of soul (whatever the F___ that means; I guess it might mean V-twin). COULD Polaris produce such a machine...certainly . But will they, or will any other manufacturer? I don't know. I now own a BMW F800GT, which is a great bike, but something is lacking....I just don't get as much pleasure out of riding it as I get out of riding my aging Norge.

Jon

[Chuck in Indiana]

I now own a BMW F800GT, which is a great bike, but something is lacking....

 

[father guzzi obrian]

An interesting concept, but with a different exhaust and foot pegs back where they belong, it could be a very cool bike.  Why have good frame and suspension bits and put the pegs up front in the wind.....   I guess it works for folks with wooden legs (no offense intended to those Guzzi riders with wooden legs)

[jas67]

I don't know. I now own a BMW F800GT, which is a great bike, but something is lacking....I just don't get as much pleasure out of riding it as I get out of riding my aging Norge.

I replaced my Breva 1100 with an F800GT.   It's a great bike, with very good riding dynamics, but, the engine is boring sounding compared to a big block Guzzi.

[bad Chad]

I'm still riding my B1100, and wow, it just hits all my buttons!  It's the motor man, it an't no lump, it's a living bit of metal!

[Kev m]

Modern BMWs are APPLIANCES.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's enough to keep me off them.

I want to ride a MOTORcycle, not a toaster.

If anyone remembers my first posts when I bought the Jackal in 2003, I said that Guzzi blended the tech/design of BMW (longitudinal crankshaft/dry clutch/shaft, EFI, Brembo) with the visceral nature/feel/passion (V-twin, torque, attention to form/design) of a Harley.

[mentalfloss]

I wonder what a ADV bike from polaris/victory/indian/brammo would look like?
Man

They are a motor company with a lot of products.....

[Tobit]

Not bad...

Need to bring that exhaust a little closer to the rider's right ear.  jk.

Cool concept.

[Aaron D.]

Looks like you better wear good boots on that.

The more I see the less I like, it just seems too smooth somehow. Like too much ,matching.