Author Topic: Stornello in USA (Read 13303 times)

aschem · « **on:** April 11, 2016, 12:50:42 PM »

Saw this on Cycletrader.com: http://www.cycletrader.com/dealers/Kustom-Workz-3015270/listing/2016-Moto-Guzzi-V7II-Stornello-117819755

Do you think that it will depreciate like most of the newer V7 bikes, or will it retain a higher dollar value?

oldbike54 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2016, 01:39:34 PM »

Quote from: aschem on April 11, 2016, 12:50:42 PM

Saw this on Cycletrader.com: http://www.cycletrader.com/dealers/Kustom-Workz-3015270/listing/2016-Moto-Guzzi-V7II-Stornello-117819755

Do you think that it will depreciate like most of the newer V7 bikes, or will it retain a higher dollar value?

Bet it depreciate just like the others .

Dusty

aschem · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2016, 01:47:22 PM »

Thanks, I have a difficult time gauging the long-term value of "limited-edition" bikes.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2016, 02:04:53 PM »

All you have to do is look at the limited edition prices on used Guzzis. Condition means more than rarity. Take for example a Rosso Mandelo limited edition. It really won't bring a premium over another V11S.

rocker59 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2016, 02:43:03 PM »

Quote from: aschem on April 11, 2016, 01:47:22 PM

Thanks, I have a difficult time gauging the long-term value of "limited-edition" bikes.

Buy it, don't ride it. Keep it in a collection for 20 years. Then maybe it will still be worth 75%-100% of what you paid. Not a very good return on your "investment". Would've been better off putting the $11k into something else.

If ridden the V7 Stornello will be no different from a V7 Racer or Special as far as "resale value", if that's what you mean by "value".

To me, the value of a motorcycle is in the enjoyment it brings, and utility it provides. Not in how much it costs me over time...

"Every Guzzi is a Limited Edition"

leafman60 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2016, 04:25:23 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 11, 2016, 02:43:03 PM

"Every Guzzi is a Limited Edition"

Ditto

bigtex · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2016, 04:48:57 PM »

Real Meaning: we would love to sell 1000 of these things. Probably only sell 237, but we'd love to sell 1000.

Sounds like I get #14. Probably ruin the collector's value the first time I run up Pole Hill Road.

rocker59 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2016, 05:29:47 PM »

Quote from: bigtex on April 11, 2016, 04:48:57 PM

Real Meaning: we would love to sell 1000 of these things. Probably only sell 237, but we'd love to sell 1000.

Sounds like I get #14. Probably ruin the collector's value the first time I run up Pole Hill Road.

Moto · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2016, 05:32:48 PM »

Quote from: bigtex on April 11, 2016, 04:48:57 PM

Real Meaning: we would love to sell 1000 of these things. Probably only sell 237, but we'd love to sell 1000.

Implied codicil: If we do sell 1000, we'll offer another batch! (They've done it before, IIRC.)

drlapo · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11, 2016, 07:47:44 PM »

Sweet bike
Buy it to enjoy not as an investment.
But I have noticed that the BMW RnineT is holding it's value; not appreciating but not depreciating by much

Cam3512 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2016, 07:53:48 PM »

I like it. Many have been asking for a factory "scrambler" from Guzzi. Well, here it is.

kingoffleece · « **Reply #11 on:** April 11, 2016, 07:58:59 PM »

I know that dealer. He's about 7 miles from my house. He's just about giving away all non current inventory.
He also brought an entire demo fleet to last years WNY Guzzi rally and will be doing so again this year.

Air-Cooled · « **Reply #12 on:** April 11, 2016, 09:45:03 PM »

First thing I noticed when I opened that link was that the inscribed number on the head stock appears to be painted, not laser cut as advertised on the Guzzi site. Mine will be arriving at the dealer this week. I bought it because it fits my riding style and I love the look. The limited edition status gives tons of upgrades over the standard Guzzi V7 II for only $200 more. Yes, it will depreciate. Even a MV Augusta will depreciate. A V7 Sport will appreciate...but keep in mind, you could buy a mint V7 Sport in 1990 with 4000 miles for $4000. I know, I bought two. If you buy a new bike expecting it to appreciate, you need to wait a long time. Why not just ride it?

ponti_33609 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2016, 06:37:12 AM »

Quote from: Moto on April 11, 2016, 05:32:48 PM

Implied codicil: If we do sell 1000, we'll offer another batch! (They've done it before, IIRC.)

They maybe sold 1000 racers, or only made even numbers so maybe 500?

http://s227.photobucket.com/user/ponti_33609/media/2015-03-18%2014.31.21_zpsyungjoiy.jpg.html]

jas67 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2016, 11:01:38 AM »

Quote from: ponti33602 on April 12, 2016, 06:37:12 AM

They maybe sold 1000 racers, or only made even numbers so maybe 500?

IIRC, I saw pics of #341 on this forum, so, not even numbers only.

leafman60 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2016, 09:05:33 PM »

What's the deal with the Stornello and the Scrambler??

I saw a paper catalog today that showed the Scrambler as an already-set-up machine for $8900. The Stornello was significantly more. Yet, they looked very much the same.

The USA website shows the Scrambler as a kit you can buy to convert a standard model, at least as best as I can decipher it.

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rocker59 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2016, 10:19:49 PM »

Quote from: leafman60 on April 12, 2016, 09:05:33 PM

What's the deal with the Stornello and the Scrambler??

I saw a paper catalog today that showed the Scrambler as an already-set-up machine for $8900. The Stornello was significantly more. Yet, they looked very much the same.

The USA website shows the Scrambler as a kit you can buy to convert a standard model, at least as best as I can decipher it.

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Scrambler is a V7 Special with a few of the Scrambler accessories added by your friendly dealer. Basically the exhaust and aluminum number plates. $10,990 MSRP in The USA.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-ii-scrambler.html

Stornello is a stand alone model from the factory that is basically the V7 Special with more of the Scrambler accessories including the aluminum fenders, special paint, and a red frame. $11,190 MSRP in The USA.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-ii-stornello.html

leafman60 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 13, 2016, 07:04:51 AM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 12, 2016, 10:19:49 PM

Scrambler is a V7 Special with a few of the Scrambler accessories added by your friendly dealer. Basically the exhaust and aluminum number plates. $10,990 MSRP in The USA.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-ii-scrambler.html

Stornello is a stand alone model from the factory that is basically the V7 Special with more of the Scrambler accessories including the aluminum fenders, special paint, and a red frame. $11,190 MSRP in The USA.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-ii-stornello.html

Yes, that is what I thought. Yesterday, I was shown a Guzzi flyer that seemed to indicate otherwise. Thanks.

bigtex · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2016, 09:38:18 AM »

Woo hoo!

jas67 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 18, 2016, 10:41:23 AM »

Europsports was at the Norton Gathering yesterday showing the Stornello and Triumph Street Twin.

IMG_8976 by jay_snyder67, on Flickr

I didn't get a picture of the exhaust side of the bike with the other bike, and then people in the way. While the high-pipe scrambler thing isn't my thing, it definitely looks good. The red frame with white tank looks very good, though, I think it would look even better with some black accents in the graphics on the tank

These should sell well to the bearded/skinny-jean/flannel crowd.

jas67 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 18, 2016, 10:47:05 AM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 12, 2016, 10:19:49 PM

Scrambler is a V7 Special with a few of the Scrambler accessories added by your friendly dealer. Basically the exhaust and aluminum number plates. $10,990 MSRP in The USA.
http://www.motoguzzi-us.com/motorcycles/v7-ii-scrambler.html

Is the Special still available? http://www.motoguzzi-us.com only lists V7 Stone, V7 Scrambler, V7 Stornello, and V7 Racer.

The Stone needs some gloss paint options.

Xlratr · « **Reply #21 on:** April 18, 2016, 11:14:06 AM »

It does look really nice! I saw it at the motorcycle show in Hamburg and I was impressed. Some nice parts on it. But.....

.....knowing the V9 engine is out there and having to go with the "old" engine would spoil it a bit for me. I know, the V7 is a good bike, but the feedback on the V9 engine seems really good so far!

rocker59 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 18, 2016, 11:22:59 AM »

Quote from: Xlratr on April 18, 2016, 11:14:06 AM

It does look really nice! I saw it at the motorcycle show in Hamburg and I was impressed. Some nice parts on it. But.....

.....knowing the V9 engine is out there and having to go with the "old" engine would spoil it a bit for me. I know, the V7 is a good bike, but the feedback on the V9 engine seems really good so far!

Feedback on the 1200 is even better. Why not go with a Griso and get a "real bike" ?

Xlratr · « **Reply #23 on:** April 18, 2016, 11:43:05 AM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 11:22:59 AM

Feedback on the 1200 is even better. Why not go with a Griso and get a "real bike" ?

I have a Stelvio. That's what Griso riders get when they grow up!

But if I ever get a small block (and I'm tempted!), it would have to have that v9 engine in there!

I'll just go and hide now ...

Demar · « **Reply #24 on:** April 18, 2016, 11:54:55 AM »

Quote from: Xlratr on April 18, 2016, 11:43:05 AM

I have a Stelvio. That's what Griso riders get when they grow up!

That's because we need the sidecase room to carry our CPAP machines.

rocker59 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 18, 2016, 12:40:59 PM »

Quote from: Xlratr on April 18, 2016, 11:43:05 AM

if I ever get a small block (and I'm tempted!), it would have to have that v9 engine in there!

Yeah. Understood. I was just joking around...

Xlratr · « **Reply #26 on:** April 18, 2016, 12:45:22 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 18, 2016, 12:40:59 PM

Yeah. Understood. I was just joking around...

Oh, I know that :-). I just shamelessly grabbed the opportunity to tell everyone that I'm a real man with a Stelvio.

Hiding again...

bpreynolds · « **Reply #27 on:** April 18, 2016, 04:04:06 PM »

Personally, I don't even really get nor like Scrambler versions of bikes in general but that Stornello is right sharp I'd say.

jas67 · « **Reply #28 on:** April 18, 2016, 05:28:46 PM »

Quote from: Xlratr on April 18, 2016, 11:14:06 AM

It does look really nice! I saw it at the motorcycle show in Hamburg and I was impressed. Some nice parts on it. But.....

.....knowing the V9 engine is out there and having to go with the "old" engine would spoil it a bit for me. I know, the V7 is a good bike, but the feedback on the V9 engine seems really good so far!

I was having V9 engine envy, but, I rode my V7 Special 285 miles and had so much fun that I forgot that it is a 50 HP weakling.

Kev m · « **Reply #29 on:** April 18, 2016, 05:43:45 PM »

I think it looks pretty good and that type of bike is generally not my thing.

Like Jay I put a lot of miles on my V7 over the weekend.

I think I realized that for something in the neighborhood of 600 miles in a weekend I need either a bigger windshield or a full face helmet.... At least more than I need a V9 or the like.

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Author Topic: Stornello in USA (Read 13303 times)

oldbike54

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