Author Topic: Another competitor (Yamaha) for Retro bikes comes to play (Read 7136 times)

PJPR01 · « **on:** June 10, 2016, 09:26:02 AM »

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-yamaha-scrambler-20160606-snap-story.html?yptr=yahoo

Spuddy · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2016, 10:09:07 AM »

Not impressed...

Spud

rboe · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2016, 10:34:43 AM »

Like slapping boots on a kid and calling him a hiker.

rocker59 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 10, 2016, 10:43:05 AM »

Nicely restyled Bolt.

It'll be a good seller for them.

Travman · « **Reply #4 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:04:03 AM »

Looks terrible. The bent front down tubes of the frame look broken.

bad Chad · « **Reply #5 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:30:53 AM »

It may sell well, but it could have been done better, though it would cost Yamaha a few more shekels I guess.

The only obvious flaws I see are, the rake of the forks is too much, and 2.8" of rear travel claimed!

rocker59 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:36:49 AM »

Quote from: bad Chad on June 10, 2016, 11:30:53 AM

It may sell well, but it could have been done better, though it would cost Yamaha a few more shekels I guess.

The only obvious flaws I see are, the rake of the forks is too much, and 2.8" of rear travel claimed!

Yeah. The scrambler version has a new (higher) seat subframe. Too bad they didn't relocate the upper shock mounts and put longer travel shocks on the scrambler. Strange. 2.8" of travel sucks, no matter how nice the shocks are.

JProdun · « **Reply #7 on:** June 10, 2016, 12:19:12 PM »

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-heritage/models/scr950

To me, looks like an answer to the new Sportster Roadster... Or the V9... Smaller displacement and cheaper price though...

Guzzistajohn · « **Reply #8 on:** June 10, 2016, 12:41:30 PM »

Looks ok, rather have a triumph scrambler

Triple Jim · « **Reply #9 on:** June 10, 2016, 01:08:48 PM »

My newfound fondness for small, light motorcycles keeps me from being interested in this 546 lb model. One of the new Yamaha FJs or FZs is way closer to something I'd enjoy riding. The FZ-07 is just under 400 lbs. wet with 20+ hp more.

Dave Swanson · « **Reply #10 on:** June 10, 2016, 01:32:23 PM »

This is more to my liking, the Yami XSR900

Triple Jim · « **Reply #11 on:** June 10, 2016, 01:35:13 PM »

Quote from: Dave Swanson on June 10, 2016, 01:32:23 PM

This is more to my liking, the Yami XSR900

Agreed!

pikipiki · « **Reply #12 on:** June 10, 2016, 02:04:35 PM »

Quote from: Triple Jim on June 10, 2016, 01:35:13 PM

Agreed!

:1:

JJ · « **Reply #13 on:** June 10, 2016, 02:35:39 PM »

Even though its just a "tarted-up Bolt", I kinda like it. However, for the same money, (about $8700+) you could have this:

2016 Triumph Street Twin!

rboe · « **Reply #14 on:** June 10, 2016, 05:30:01 PM »

The XSR900 just looks odd to me, but sat on one after a fellow CB1100 bought one (he loves it!) and ergo's seemed good. Once in the cockpit the bike was attractive so I dared not ride it.

Sasquatch Jim · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2016, 05:38:59 PM »

That double cradle frame looks like it might make a good sidecar tug.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2016, 05:51:18 PM »

Quote from: Dave Swanson on June 10, 2016, 01:32:23 PM

This is more to my liking, the Yami XSR900

That's just way too busy looking to my eye. That's why they make all kinds, I guess.. <shrug>

Triple Jim · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2016, 05:54:17 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on June 10, 2016, 05:51:18 PM

That's just way too busy looking to my eye. That's why they make all kinds, I guess.. <shrug>

I agree about the looks being horrible. It's the light weight and power that is reasonable.

beetle · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:06:13 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on June 10, 2016, 05:51:18 PM

That's just way too busy looking to my eye. That's why they make all kinds, I guess.. <shrug>

:1:

When looking at it, the eye doesn't know where to stop. Gives you eyeball ache.

beetle · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:09:57 PM »

...and the opposite end of the retro spectrum, this horror looks like a transformer. Egads!

Triple Jim · « **Reply #20 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:22:09 PM »

I get a kick out of the tag/turn signal mounts that the manufacturers make so they're just enough to pass government requirements, but very easy to remove once the bike is sold.

swordds · « **Reply #21 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:41:29 PM »

I'm sticking with my V7II, none of the bikes pictured or mentioned impress me as much as the one I already own.

johnr · « **Reply #22 on:** June 10, 2016, 06:53:23 PM »

I think the bike looks a lot better than some of the creations featured in this post, which almost seem an exercise in ugly.

However several things that I don't like immediately caught my eye.
Bent down tubes (frame) These may be OK but to my eye they don't look as though they should be.
The 'racing' number place on the side panels. An affectation I find distasteful. Don't like it on the V7 racer either.
Petrol tank looks too small, both from an aesthetic and range point of view.
'Kicked up' rear sub-frame. Not pleasing aesthetically and needlessly restricts passenger comfort and luggage attachment.
Too heavy.
Seat height is too high.

No, if I was in the market I wouldn't be going for that one.

The following pic is a Yamaha which may not even exist at this point. I think it is only a concept. In many ways I think it is a more pleasing machine.

With a bigger (and lower slung) engine, a rear guard... in fact turning it into a 'universal road motorcycle' they may have something here.

wymple · « **Reply #23 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:49:21 PM »

Roamer looks far better, no contest.

yogidozer · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2016, 05:30:44 AM »

Rather see them bring back the 650 twin

Cool Runnings · « **Reply #25 on:** June 11, 2016, 07:49:58 AM »

oldbike54 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 11, 2016, 08:03:35 AM »

My understanding is the Bolt series has been a success for Yamaha nee Star MC's . The scrambler will probably sell , we aren't the target audience .

Dusty

mentalfloss · « **Reply #27 on:** June 11, 2016, 08:14:16 AM »

Beauty in the eye of the beholder.... as they say...
The scram-bolt-er has potential but seems like a poser in its stock form. The triple , on the other hand is pretty exciting looking.
The scram-bolt-er will not sell well is my guess....I would still like to have some time in the saddle and get a real test.
Just looking at the scrambler market I would want the stornello and spend money on it to get it sorted out or the BMW 9-T scram...both because of the lump powering them seems to fit my style.

Seamaster · « **Reply #28 on:** June 11, 2016, 09:00:31 PM »

Quote from: johnr on June 10, 2016, 06:53:23 PM

I think the bike looks a lot better than some of the creations featured in this post, which almost seem an exercise in ugly.

However several things that I don't like immediately caught my eye.
Bent down tubes (frame) These may be OK but to my eye they don't look as though they should be.
The 'racing' number place on the side panels. An affectation I find distasteful. Don't like it on the V7 racer either.
Petrol tank looks too small, both from an aesthetic and range point of view.
'Kicked up' rear sub-frame. Not pleasing aesthetically and needlessly restricts passenger comfort and luggage attachment.
Too heavy.
Seat height is too high.

No, if I was in the market I wouldn't be going for that one.

The following pic is a Yamaha which may not even exist at this point. I think it is only a concept. In many ways I think it is a more pleasing machine.

With a bigger (and lower slung) engine, a rear guard... in fact turning it into a 'universal road motorcycle' they may have something here.

I like the color combination.

cruzziguzzi · « **Reply #29 on:** June 11, 2016, 10:57:45 PM »

I think it's a cute enough little scooter and I'm really quite past worrying over the "Scrambler" moniker following scrambler function. just like I no longer chafe at the mis-used "muscle car" term.

On this one, while I like so much of it, I don't think I could ever get used to the, 70's chopper, cobbed-up-compromise of that ridiculous bend in the frame members.

Then too, looking at it, if they wanted to tap into Yama-retro - they should have gone even more TT/SR/XT and used one of the designators as well.

Todd.

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Author Topic: Another competitor (Yamaha) for Retro bikes comes to play (Read 7136 times)

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