Author Topic: im now getting any oil pressure on my 98 ev motor! (Read 7827 times)

troyhamilton · « **on:** July 18, 2017, 10:06:19 AM »

I cant get it to prime! This is the motor i got from Muley. Ive tryed spining it over with no plugs a few times. i only have a test light hooked to the sending unit. but no oil is coming up to my top end. light stays lit. any ideas? it was lying on its side for several years. i have 3 quarts of oil in it. nothing. i dont have the oil vent box on the motor or the dizzy in. valves have been adjusted. any ideas?

guzzista · « **Reply #1 on:** July 18, 2017, 10:15:49 AM »

You might just have to invest in a cheap Harbor Freight oil pressure gauge. The fitting I believe is 12mmx 1.5. Only then you can be sure.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #2 on:** July 18, 2017, 10:25:29 AM »

Might just be a bad oil pressure switch. Remove a valve cover and see if any oil is reaching the rockers or loosen the banjo bolt where the oil line to the heads is secured to the block and see if oil squirts out there when you crank it.

troyhamilton · « **Reply #3 on:** July 18, 2017, 10:30:18 AM »

rockers are dry. no banjo on my ev.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #4 on:** July 18, 2017, 10:34:08 AM »

Quote from: troyhamilton on July 18, 2017, 10:30:18 AM

rockers are dry. no banjo on my ev.

Sure there is: right near the oil pressure switch, down on top of the engine case. Or just remove the oil pressure switch and see if oil squirts out there.

Banjo bolt right at the "Y":

troyhamilton · « **Reply #5 on:** July 18, 2017, 10:36:58 AM »

yeah i thought about it after i typed it. it is too hot in dixie! 84 already

yogidozer · « **Reply #6 on:** July 18, 2017, 10:51:53 AM »

Quote from: troyhamilton on July 18, 2017, 10:36:58 AM

yeah i thought about it after i typed it. it is too hot in dixie! 84 already

same here in Ct., hate it

Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2017, 10:54:53 AM »

If the pump is totally dry, it may not want to prime. I had that once, on a motor that was dry for a long time. I buttoned the motor up tight. pulled the oil pressure switch, and put a few PSI of air pressure in through the oil dipstick hole using a rag wrapped around an air line. After a time, a little oil started to ooze out the pressure switch hole. All was well after that.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2017, 11:07:24 AM »

Standard procedure on dry VW engines is to pack the pump with lithium grease for first startup. Wayne's method ought to work, too.

troyhamilton · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2017, 11:14:26 AM »

that might work if i had it apart that far.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2017, 11:20:16 AM »

Go with Wayne's then.. I think Charlie has posted he primes engines that way. Takes a while with low air pressure.
I'll see if I can find that thread..

troyhamilton · « **Reply #11 on:** July 18, 2017, 11:25:41 AM »

cool!

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #12 on:** July 18, 2017, 11:26:50 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on July 18, 2017, 11:20:16 AM

Go with Wayne's then.. I think Charlie has posted he primes engines that way. Takes a while with low air pressure.
I'll see if I can find that thread..

I have in the past, on ones that won't prime by themselves. I drilled and tapped a drain plug for a schrader valve and screwed that in the dipstick hole. 5 psi is all it usually takes.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #13 on:** July 18, 2017, 11:37:33 AM »

Thanks, Charlie.. I couldn't find that thread.

Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #14 on:** July 18, 2017, 12:13:44 PM »

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on July 18, 2017, 11:26:50 AM

I have in the past, on ones that won't prime by themselves. I drilled and tapped a drain plug for a schrader valve and screwed that in the dipstick hole. 5 psi is all it usually takes.

With my luck, at some point the air line would come off of that schrader valve, it would not work right, and there would be a lot of pressurized oil everywhere.

Antietam Classic Cycle · « **Reply #15 on:** July 18, 2017, 12:34:52 PM »

Quote from: Wayne Orwig on July 18, 2017, 12:13:44 PM

With my luck, at some point the air line would come off of that schrader valve, it would not work right, and there would be a lot of pressurized oil everywhere.

On the one I made, the core isn't in the schrader valve and I pressurize with a $4.99 Harbor Freight tire inflator with gauge. Haven't made a mess yet, but there's always that chance!

troyhamilton · « **Reply #16 on:** July 18, 2017, 12:38:51 PM »

i bet my landlord would like to see the garage sprayed with oil...ill roll it out side at daylight to hot now, done hit 90...very humid!

rodekyll · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2017, 01:58:55 PM »

Pull the pressure switch and crank -- see if oil comes up the galley. Did you fill the filter with oil?

troyhamilton · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2017, 02:07:52 PM »

no i didnt. might drop the pan and do that. didnt think of it

troyhamilton · « **Reply #19 on:** July 18, 2017, 04:51:14 PM »

i bet you could fill the oil system from the top too. if you had no air

LowRyter · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2017, 06:05:07 PM »

determine if the pan gasket hasn't been installed upside down.

It's easy to do.

don't ask me how I know.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2017, 06:35:09 PM »

Quote from: troyhamilton on July 18, 2017, 02:07:52 PM

no i didnt. might drop the pan and do that. didnt think of it

It's no big deal.. trust me on this one.

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2017, 07:32:03 PM »

Quote from: LowRyter on July 18, 2017, 06:05:07 PM

determine if the pan gasket hasn't been installed upside down.

It's easy to do.

don't ask me how I know.

whar he said

troyhamilton · « **Reply #23 on:** July 18, 2017, 09:23:55 PM »

i think the gasket is instaled
correctly

troyhamilton · « **Reply #24 on:** August 04, 2017, 12:30:55 PM »

I was wr wrr wrrrong. lol its was hot that day. and it finally cooled off. i dropped my pan and danmmit both gaskets were bass ackwards! filled my filter too. pump is ok. try sometimes this week to retime and drop my dizzy. and readjust my valves

LowRyter · « **Reply #25 on:** August 04, 2017, 12:47:33 PM »

been there, done that.

glad you found it.

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nbags · « **Reply #27 on:** August 04, 2017, 01:30:30 PM »

remove oil pan fill filter with oil remove oil pressure switch and try to fill with oil remove plugs and crank it over pressurizing crankcase does work but do not over pressurize could push seals out.Some parts stores carry an engine oil primer you can rent for a small fee that works pretty good.

guzzisteve · « **Reply #28 on:** August 04, 2017, 01:58:37 PM »

I would definitely stop drinking while you wrench.

troyhamilton · « **Reply #29 on:** August 04, 2017, 02:09:54 PM »

I havent boozed in years
miss it lol

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