Just bought me self a basket case -72 850GT. Update Nov 19.

[RoyRogers]

Hi all . Hoping not to disturb from other side of the Pond.

I may, or may not ask stupid questions :-). At the moment I'm trying to figure my costs.







Engine out.. chrome cylinders - bad. No flaking - good.



Electric is to me the biggest issue I guess. Well see, sometime around year 2025

It will take some time until done, I'm sure

[lti_57]

Congrats looks like a fun project
 

[v7john]

It will make a nice machine. If that Citroen is yours you've got a great vehicle there as well. I've owned a DS21 saloon and two DS 23 Safaris in the past and they have to be among the best cars I've had.

[Tom H]

Not bad at all.

I would say about $1500US could get the cylinders and some chrome bits to replace the nasty ones.

Tom

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Welcome Roy!

Electrics are the easy part. Greg Bender makes excellent wiring harnesses:
http://www.thisoldtractor.com/for_sale_wiring_harness_loop.html

You can rebuild the original generator or go with a Scrambler Cycle alternator kit:
http://scramblercycle.highwire.com/product/moto-guzzi-loopframe-generator-to-alternator-conversion-kit

The Bosch starter is very durable and can be rebuilt. Or, replace it with a Valeo/Valeo "clone".

The ignition switch, starter button, fuseblock, brake switch, etc. are all available new.

[guzzisteve]

I would get a new harness and start fresh, plus you'll have parts. Price? It all depends on how pretty you want it and how much time you invest.  Don't think you will ever get all your money returned. Good Luck.

[Kiwi_Roy]

The biggest expense will be new jugs and pistons to replace the chrome bores but then it will be like a near new motor,

Valves and guides if it's high mileage 100k or more

Drive shaft universal can be refreshed

Seal kit

Gasket kit

A Greg Bender harness if you want to keep it stock

You will be surprised how well the pipes and mufflers clean up, run with what you've got until something better turns up.

I would just paint over the rusty chrome with some sort of rust preventer in silver or black.
I used black POR15 on the crash bars.

For <$2,000 you will have a nice rider

I can guarantee one thing, more grins per mile than any modern Guzzi
Actually two things, more conversations started by strangers admiring the old girl.

[normzone]

You would not believe the wave of memories those pictures bring me - thank you, [RoyRogers].

You're going to love that machine.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Valves and guides if it's high mileage 100k or more

In my experience, the guides and valves are both significantly worn by 30k miles. New valves are only $28 ea., it's false economy to not replace them.

[Don G]

Cost is determined by what level you want the machine to be at, lots of people scrimp where you cant see and spend big on what you can, I like them when they are shiny on the inside first. That way the function of the machine wont let you down. DonG

[Kiwi_Roy]

In my experience, the guides and valves are both significantly worn by 30k miles. New valves are only $28 ea., it's false economy to not replace them.

You have forgotten more than I will ever know about these machines, my 130k miles Eldo may have been done several times of course.

I just noticed the 4 leading shoes on the front wheel

What year did that happen Charlie?

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/moto%20guzzi/moto_guzzi_850_eldorado.htm

Why did I completely miss its an 850 GT?

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I just noticed the 4 leading shoes on the front wheel

What year did that happen Charlie?

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/moto%20guzzi/moto_guzzi_850_eldorado.htm

For the US, mid-'73, but the Europeans got them a bit earlier I suspect.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Welcome to WG, RR.  That 4 shoe front end is more than likely worth more than you paid for the whole bike. 

[Yeahoo Whoyah]

In the first photo I see some nice garage art, the black background with yellow letters California license plates circa 1963-70. And some from Illinois. Made it all the way to Norway, fantastic.   

[pehayes]

Welcome to WG, RR.  That 4 shoe front end is more than likely worth more than you paid for the whole bike. 

 :1:

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Bookmark this website if you haven't already, it'll be invaluable during the rebuild:
http://thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_loopframe.html

Also, you might consider joining us over on the Loopframe Guzzi Yahoo group:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Loopframe_Guzzi/info

[canuck750]

Nice project, welcome aboard!

[perter]

Hej og velkommen til fra Danmark! Been to your beautiful country many times and hiked both Hardangervidda and Jotunheimen

That's going to be a very nice project for the long Norwegian Winter(s).

What's the plan? Complete rebuild to mint condition or will you just fix mechanics and electrics and run it as a visual unrestored bike? I would tend towards the latter if I were you, it has potential to be an eye catcher no matter what you decide.

As for spares I can recommend stein-dinse.biz which is reasonable with price and shipping and also hmb-guzzi.de, both located in Germany but communicates well in English too.

Per

[azguzzirep]

It's very important on these engines to pull the crank and clean out the sludge trap. If it gets clogged, bad things happen to the end bearings.

[RoyRogers]

Hi and Thanks a lot, overwhelming sum of answers here.

She (it's a She!) will probably look at lot better inside than outside . (Motto: Rust are the new Chrome)..or something like that. My findings so far: Chrome cylinder = renewal. Valves and Guides..to be checked. Frame..Good.
Drive shaft an Co. .Looking good. Front fork..yet to inspect..Brakes, not much wear, but function are..hmm..not good. Have to be inspected and adjusted..

Og takk til Danmark . Your welcome visiting, (you all are of course, but most of you don't live i my neighborhood).

Thank again to all of you. I'll be back!
! will be away for work a few days, so no news until next week.

Oh, and I have also one more in the works;


Looks like this at the moment.

[RoyRogers]

Out, had to use my bigger hammer.


Steering lock...seems impossible to repair. The small "pipe" in head stock are missing, someone violently  removed it


Picture senter; one side bolt cut, other side nothing. Parts-list are telling me nothing.


Got the frame clean, some painting are to be done .


Rear break-light switch. With cable ties..


Bags..in need of TLC.  I think original MG...correct or not?





 

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Steering lock is available from various sources, it the same as some BMWs.
http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=2950

Brake light switch:
http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=110_146&products_id=1992

Those do look like the factory saddlebags.

[RoyRogers]

Thank you very much, Charlie
Steering lock prob; small pipe that protrudes into head-stock..
is gone.



Brakelight switch i repairable, I guess.



I have read everything about Loop's by Bender, its a lot! I can only  to him.
Also your Blogpost 

[RoyRogers]

In the first photo I see some nice garage art, the black background with yellow letters California license plates circa 1963-70. And some from Illinois. Made it all the way to Norway, fantastic.   

Not my garage, PO's.  There are thousands of (old classic) cars and bikes imported from the US to Norway. Some collect cars, some collects plates

[RoyRogers]

Was about to ask you guys...how to get da damn thing out.



But then I found this;

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_loopframe_wheel_central_hub_replacement.html

Not really necessary to ask anything here, is there?

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Was about to ask you guys...how to get da damn thing out.



But then I found this;

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_loopframe_wheel_central_hub_replacement.html

Not really necessary to ask anything here, is there?

Sometimes still. Plus we like photos and to know how your project is coming along.

[Chesterfield]

Looks like winter time fun!

[RoyRogers]

Fork...well uuhm..





Had to use a drill bit to clean out the sludge, some sort of asphalt..well not really, but then..


Did manage to take it apart.



Humm..Seals where, surprisingly enough, ok.

[Chuck in Indiana]

<snapping suspenders> No need of changing that fork oil. They put it in at the factory.. 

[RoyRogers]

I love a good surprise...not





A friend of mine have this special tool;


I hope we will manage to unwind it