Author Topic: V85 TT Merged Threadfest (Read 537361 times)

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #900 on:** October 02, 2018, 05:42:52 PM »

Quote from: Clancy on October 02, 2018, 05:19:00 PM

Top left is a fuel tank level indicator, though it's probably just determined by calculated mileage.

I learnt not to trust fuel gauge...even in a car...

I pushed enough cars in my days to know that...

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #901 on:** October 03, 2018, 08:03:50 AM »

Quote from: Gustavo on October 02, 2018, 04:25:50 PM

That's probably true. But, I don't think anybody has ever described my riding style as mellow. I am often very thankful for those rev limiters...

I just saw this, from the new Indian FTR1200:

Seems like a good compromise between having an all digital dash and putting the info in an easy to read format.

Gustavo

That is actually the upscale "S" version of the FTR. $2000 more to get that display in the US.

JohninVT · « **Reply #902 on:** October 03, 2018, 08:35:42 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on October 02, 2018, 03:26:08 PM

It's rain mode, less aggressive throttle, more aggressive TC.

Also cuts power substantially. The 1400 can barely get out of it's way in Rain mode. I think it's something like 60% power. Tourismo has a smoother throttle response but full power and Veloce is miserable around town but nice if you want to flog the thing in the mountains. I've ridden in a few frog stranglers and never bothered with it. I usually leave the TC on the least intrusive level but I tried the higher TC settings in one downpour and that was plenty in terms of killing wheelspin.

Lcarlson · « **Reply #903 on:** October 03, 2018, 10:04:31 AM »

Agree that the Pioggia setting is essentially useless. I do, however, use Veloce as my default mode. I don’t find it overly sensitive, and the bike feels much more lively. I can understand a preference for Turismo, though.

Gustavo · « **Reply #904 on:** October 03, 2018, 11:06:40 AM »

More videos from the V85TT intro are popping up:

https://youtu.be/xEx9CI6mSyk

Gustavo

steven c · « **Reply #905 on:** October 04, 2018, 07:14:40 PM »

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/did-moto-guzzi-unveil-the-most-salable-bike-at-intermot-2018?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=boosted-posts%7Ctpfn&utm_content=common-tread-news&utm_term=did-moto-guzzi-unveil-the-most-salable-bike-at-intermot-2018-100418-%7Ctpfn

Bud · « **Reply #906 on:** October 04, 2018, 07:29:27 PM »

Thanks for that one Steve.

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #907 on:** October 04, 2018, 07:38:54 PM »

PJPR01 · « **Reply #908 on:** October 04, 2018, 08:10:28 PM »

Man oh Man...a V85 in Blue! Now that's a looker!

bad Chad · « **Reply #909 on:** October 05, 2018, 01:29:41 PM »

When are they going to relase the offical spec sheet?

I found it, EICMA Novmber 6.

Socalrob · « **Reply #910 on:** October 13, 2018, 01:57:39 PM »

Quote from: JJ on September 16, 2018, 01:51:26 PM

The Bottom-Line:

* 80 HP
* about 441 pounds
* about $14,000 USD

This is verified? No link for me anyway.

giusto · « **Reply #911 on:** October 13, 2018, 02:24:53 PM »

Almost there.

All the specs should be present with the roll out in Europe in November.
Lots of debate about HPWR at the rear wheel.
Weight less than 450
Price $ 12,700 USD at current rate

I’d like to know seat height :)

not-fishing · « **Reply #912 on:** October 13, 2018, 02:48:28 PM »

I admit that I'm a little slow on the uptake but it just occurred to me that Guzzi was basically building competition to the

And I'm good with that.

Tusayan · « **Reply #913 on:** October 13, 2018, 03:13:40 PM »

As noted before, there isnt a tremendous value in direct comparison of projected European and US retail price. Sales tax (VAT) is around 20% in most European countries and is typically included in the European retail price quote because its a bigger fraction of the total. In the US sales tax varies and is zero in some states so nationwide advertising does not typically include tax. Also, the European market is less competitive and inporters can control price more effectively, which means that the prices are higher even without tax.

rdbandkab · « **Reply #914 on:** October 13, 2018, 03:16:28 PM »

Bet the V85 would be a hoot to ride down to the MotoGP in Austin....

My buddies on their KTM's and BMW's....

JJ · « **Reply #915 on:** October 13, 2018, 08:09:16 PM »

Quote from: giusto on October 13, 2018, 02:24:53 PM

Almost there.

All the specs should be present with the roll out in Europe in November.
Lots of debate about HPWR at the rear wheel.
Weight less than 450
Price $ 12,700 USD at current rate

I�d like to know seat height :)

Check this fact.... but I think the seat height will be 32-30 inches...which is a good thing for us short guys!!

Tennmoto · « **Reply #916 on:** October 14, 2018, 05:50:52 AM »

Quote from: steven c on September 10, 2018, 12:19:54 PM

About the motor
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motociclismo.it%2Fmoto-guzzi-v85-segreti-motore-intervista-cappellini-70088&edit-text=

Wow after reading that article I really want one!

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #917 on:** October 20, 2018, 03:24:57 PM »

Quote from: Tennmoto on October 14, 2018, 05:50:52 AM

Wow after reading that article I really want one!

This is starting to get interesting.

Muzz · « **Reply #918 on:** October 20, 2018, 03:38:38 PM »

"Maniacal valves"

The mind boggles.

MadMike · « **Reply #919 on:** October 21, 2018, 07:59:50 AM »

Quote from: not-fishing on October 13, 2018, 02:48:28 PM

I admit that I'm a little slow on the uptake but it just occurred to me that Guzzi was basically building competition to the

And I'm good with that.

Except with Shaft Drive! I'm Soooo Good with that! Lack of driveshaft has kept me away from most if not all middle weight ADVs from the Europe.

LowRyter · « **Reply #920 on:** October 21, 2018, 09:47:06 AM »

Quote from: egschade on September 14, 2018, 07:19:15 AM

Here Kev - read this: https://www.wired.com/2015/08/motorcycles-lean-far-without-tipping/

In the case of taller suspension and the resulting higher CG, you will require a higher 'fake force' to counter the higher 'mg' force. Taller bikes feel heavier because their GC is further from the fulcrum (ground). As a consequence, a higher 'friction' force (speed) needs to be applied at any given lean angle. Tall enduro bikes with skinny / knobby tires are an extreme example. You only get a fraction of the lean angle on an XR650 than you will on an R1 due to the high GC and low tire friction. Knobbies in the dirt significantly increase friction allowing higher speed and lean angle. On the road, you have to compensate with body lean to keep the bike from overpowering frictional force or you low-side the bike.

This is another decent discussion on the subject: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/211193/effect-of-position-on-a-motorbike-turning

you mean to say the bike is "top heavy"?

Lcarlson · « **Reply #921 on:** October 21, 2018, 10:12:18 AM »

Quote from: MadMike on October 21, 2018, 07:59:50 AM

Except with Shaft Drive! I'm Soooo Good with that! Lack of driveshaft has kept me away from most if not all middle weight ADVs from the Europe.

I felt the same way, but with the installation of a Scottoiler automatic chain lubrication system, there is no longer a need to manually lube OR clean the chain. And chain final drive is light, simple, efficient and reliable.

giusto · « **Reply #922 on:** October 21, 2018, 11:05:44 AM »

I respectfully interject.
Lighter... agreed
Simpler… Less parts doesn’t always mean simpler… Chain being much more than one part
More efficient? I do not think so
Reliable?… With substantial and increased level of maintenance still not.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #923 on:** October 22, 2018, 03:22:48 PM »

Definitely more efficient.

Toecutter · « **Reply #924 on:** October 22, 2018, 03:27:17 PM »

The more I read... the more I see the Africa Twin being a much more sensible purchase. Same price. Aside from interest in the Guzzi name, I don't see a lot of reason to pick the V85 over the AT.

JohninVT · « **Reply #925 on:** October 22, 2018, 03:46:25 PM »

Quote from: giusto on October 21, 2018, 11:05:44 AM

I respectfully interject.
Lighter... agreed
Simpler… Less parts doesn’t always mean simpler… Chain being much more than one part
More efficient? I do not think so
Reliable?… With substantial and increased level of maintenance still not.

30lbs lighter
Much, much simpler. Less parts is the definition of more simple
More efficient because it's 30lbs lighter and has fewer and lighter parts
More reliable than shaft drive. Have you ever seen a chain break that's been maintained? I haven't and I've had at least 40 chain drive bikes. You see dozens of pictures of BMW's on the side of the road with the final drive on fire. Peruse ADVrider for a few hours. You won't see a single post about a chain breaking but you'll find at least a dozen shaft drive failures.

This argument has been had a hundred times on the board. It is less expensive to run an O or X ring chain and quality sprockets than it is a Guzzi shaft drive. The only way you can argue a Guzzi shaft drive is cheaper over 100k miles is if you place no value on your time and do all the maintenance yourself. If you run a Scottoiler you can EASILY get 30,000 miles from a chain and sprockets. I like the Guzzi shaft drive system. It's reliable and it's the only main system on my bike I have no qualms about what-so-ever. However, it's not simpler or more reliable or anything else compared to chain drive. It's just different.

MadMike · « **Reply #926 on:** October 22, 2018, 04:42:37 PM »

If chains were so good- Cars would have 'em but they don't, so shaft is better. That makes Moto Guzzi better than cars with chain drive.

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #927 on:** October 22, 2018, 06:33:58 PM »

Quote from: Toecutter on October 22, 2018, 03:27:17 PM

The more I read... the more I see the Africa Twin being a much more sensible purchase. Same price. Aside from interest in the Guzzi name, I don't see a lot of reason to pick the V85 over the AT.

I test rode the Africa twin along with two versions of KTM adventure bikes.

If you are looking for a reliable commuter and have a few gravel roads on your commute the AT is the way to go. If you are riding for the love of riding and excitement of riding look elsewhere.

TimmyTheHog · « **Reply #928 on:** October 22, 2018, 06:35:58 PM »

Quote from: twowheeladdict on October 22, 2018, 06:33:58 PM

I test rode the Africa twin along with two versions of KTM adventure bikes.

If you are looking for a reliable commuter and have a few gravel roads on your commute the AT is the way to go. If you are riding for the love of riding and excitement of riding look elsewhere.

Funny thing your statement is true for most Honda...

Love Honda to pieces for its awesome reliability but at the same time they turn into a bore after a while on the saddle...

One of the few reasons why I sold my Shadow...love the bike but kind of have no soul...

roadscum · « **Reply #929 on:** October 22, 2018, 07:23:10 PM »

Quote from: Toecutter on October 22, 2018, 03:27:17 PM

The more I read... the more I see the Africa Twin being a much more sensible purchase. Same price. Aside from interest in the Guzzi name, I don't see a lot of reason to pick the V85 over the AT.

Suggest you ride them both, then decide. Buy the one that makes ya smile, not the one with the spec sheet read best. Make Sense?

I rode a friends AT/DCT for a few hours and was happy to get off the seat. i was not impressed and founding it very boring, not inspired by the AT motor, nope, not at all.

If it doesn't make me smile I don't buy it, simple really.

Paul

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