Rollerization not necessary?

[Dave Swanson]

Very nice chocolatey Norge! 

I prefer Bill Hagan's color description, espresso and grappa.   

[Dilliw]

So, knowing all this 8V tappet drama, has anyone just bought the damn bike and dove right in to righting the issue? Sure, if the buy-in price is right, go ahead. But what if the price isn�t right? Do people pay �top-dollar� just to have the bike? And then dump 2 grand into it? I know it�s a stupid question ....but Moto Guzzis are rare to find....


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I bought a Griso knowing it was a flattie.  I inquired about a number of bikes advertised online: 1. None of the sellers had any clue about the issue (or said they didn't have a clue) and 2. there was no way I was going to negotiate a fair price on a bike that required a "C" kit (see No. 1). 

It's also tough because there isn't a huge spread in used prices between roller bikes ('12 and above) and "B" kit flatties.  It's just that since used Griso's aren't on every corner I bought an '11 close by (within 200mi) knowing I'd have to haul it straight to a dealer and spend up to $1500 to get her righted.  It ended up costing me $450 so all was good.

[Markcarovilli]

I prefer Bill Hagan's color description, espresso and grappa.   

 :1:

[Litre1000]

I bought a Griso knowing it was a flattie.  I inquired about a number of bikes advertised online: 1. None of the sellers had any clue about the issue (or said they didn't have a clue) and 2. there was no way I was going to negotiate a fair price on a bike that required a "C" kit (see No. 1). 

It's also tough because there isn't a huge spread in used prices between roller bikes ('12 and above) and "B" kit flatties.  It's just that since used Griso's aren't on every corner I bought an '11 close by (within 200mi) knowing I'd have to haul it straight to a dealer and spend up to $1500 to get her righted.  It ended up costing me $450 so all was good.

So, did you ride the bike at all before taking it in for repairs? Was the bike making any ticking or clattering noises? Or, did you just take it straight to the dealer/repair shop suspecting the worst and found you had worn tappets?


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[Wayne Orwig]

He rode it about 12 miles to my place and we found this.

[Zoom Zoom]

Scientists have discovered that any flat tappet 8 valve Guzzi engine will fail. It is only a matter of time.

End of story! Non negotiable! People can be an ostrich and bury their head in the sand or just deal with it. Or, buy a roller motor 8V.

Wayne, did you notice how I worded this?

John Henry

edit: Good grief, 6 pages and 3500 reads. This is being beat to death on a subject that was settled some time ago! The question can be asked over and over. The answer is not going to be what you want to hear!

[Huzo]

Scientists have discovered that any flat tappet 8 valve Guzzi engine will fail. It is only a matter of time.

End of story! Non negotiable! People can be an ostrich and bury their head in the sand or just deal with it. Or, buy a roller motor 8V.

Wayne, did you notice how I worded this?

John Henry

I usually follow these 8V tappett threads although it doesn't apply to my bike.
It's a bit odd really, because where's the argument?
If you have a flat tappet 8 and it's failed and you say it's failed....then you're right..,!
If you are one that claims that there's nothing to worry about, and yours has done 100,000 trouble free miles.... then you're right..!
If yours has done 10,000 miles and is relatively new, and you claim it is not going to fail, you are still right.. until you find you're wrong, (as you will), then you will pay the $$$$$ price for your ignorance and pig headeadness.
Were I Roper, I'd just start asking people to forgive me for my Paul Revere style flag waving, and maybe I don't know what I'm talking about after all, let the tools who want to tell me I'm wrong, come back with their collective tails between their legs and ask for help to fix their bikes and empty their wallets.
How much damn proof do some people need.
They just won't accept his word, because it's not them that did the work.

[bpreynolds]

I ain’t ufraid a no flatties!  Put’em up!

[rjamesohio]

This thread has well and truly morphed like no other thread has ever done in the history of forums.

;)


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[Huzo]

This thread has well and truly morphed like no other thread has ever done in the history of forums.

;)


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Well alrighty then...!
Must be a good one.

[OldMojo]

Does anyone have a handle on the availability of the various roller kits in the US?

If this has been answered somewhere already please direct me.

[guzzisteve]

This thread has well and truly morphed like no other thread has ever done in the history of forums.

;)


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You forgot steel cut oats.

[pete roper]

Does anyone have a handle on the availability of the various roller kits in the US?

If this has been answered somewhere already please direct me.

Yes they’re available but at the moment, with the $US being strong, it’s almost certainly cheaper to bring them in from Europe.

Just bung the part # into the search box an the site of your supplier of choice.

[Chuck in Indiana]

You forgot steel cut oats.

Mmmm... SCOs

[bpreynolds]

You forgot steel cut oats.

Perfect country and western song will have mama, trains, trucks, rain, prison, and getting drunk.
Perfect Wildguzzi thread will have rollers, steel cut oats, heated disagreements, and...?

[PJPR01]

Perfect country and western song will have mama, trains, trucks, rain, prison, and getting drunk.
Perfect Wildguzzi thread will have rollers, steel cut oats, heated disagreements, and...?

:)  What do you get when you play country music backwards?.....

You get back your girlfriend, pick up truck, dog, house etc.!

Perfect WG thread - must have an oil component for sure, riding gear, to GPS or not to GPS, Guzzi Marketing or lack thereof, Geezer vs. Hipster, a healthy dose of curmudgeonisms, and of course, some limoncello!

 

[Chuck in Indiana]

Oooo, Limenchello..

[guzzisteve]

Mmmm... SCOs

That looks like puke in a pan!!!

[Chuck in Indiana]

<sigh> Great artists are never understood.. 

[Huzo]

Probably tasted better coming up than going down..!

[John A]

Healthy people just don't have that coming out of them...

[pete roper]

Looks like bits of the big island of Hawaii right now....