2007 Griso, good bike or time bomb?

[Rough Edge racing]

   A 2007 Griso is for sale, 22,000 miles. Runs nicely ,looks used but not necessarily abused. Any hidden disasters waiting to happen? $4200 asking price is affordable...

[JohninVT]

You'll put your eye out...

[Mark111]

07 should be 2 valve engine, great bike and very little required to make it bullet proof.
Probably need grease in the swing arm and shock linkage bearings and also steering head bearings.
These are all pretty straight forward jobs as is engine tuning for best performance.
These things are built like a brick shithouse, very robust and great to ride especially when setup properly.

[kidsmoke]

what he said. This is a 2 valve V11, last of the Mohicans. I saw that listing. Seems like a great opportunity. 

[Moto]

Some would worry the dash will fail, making the bike inoperable. Some wouldn't.

If it does, it is a relatively expensive part, over $500. There is a company that fixes them (Carmo). Preventive measures are possible and much discussed. Best bet is probably to put or have someone put a conformal coating on the dash's printed circuit board if you worry about it. At least it's the kind of problem that won't lead to a cascade of other failures. Just a new dash.

No tappet worries on this one. Aside from the grease issues already mentioned, there was an earlier vehicle speed sensor that needs a bit of silicone seal, and one or two other early niggles that were likely fixed by now.

Bullet proof and even pretty crash resistant, with those exceptions.

Moto

[zebraranger]

IMO that price is too high for an 07. If you keep your eyes out, a much newer 4V model year will eventually pop up for about the same price if not a little more. Theres a couple of 2015 and 2016 SE's on cycletrader right now for around 6000, and many will negotiate.

[kirb]

I sold an '07 with similar mileage for a bit more. $4200 is a pretty damn reasonable price. They don't need much, easy to work on, and always performed.

I can't imagine a Griso dropping much below $4k in value ever... There is a finite number of them, the '07, '13 and later are the most desirable and trouble free. The '09-'12 models will suffer in price due to the cam failures, but the '07 is a unique beast. There are no '08 in the states if my info is correct. You could still buy '07 leftovers in the crate in '09.

[Kiwi_Roy]

My 07 is at about 25k miles, I just did the greasing, the factory just sent it out the door with the shipping grease in the bearings but was still ok. It's a fairly simple job to get the swing arm out, no special tools required.
The suspension is better than a VII sport in my opinion.
The seat is not very comfortable but a Corbin will take care of that
Drive will seem a bit snatchey at low speed in first not as smooth as an earlier VII
I think its a fine machine.

[mjptexas]

I had a 2006  Griso (essentially the same bike) for several years.  One of the best bikes I ever owned.  Should have kept it.

[Perazzimx14]

My 1st Guzzi was a 2007 Griso I bought as a leftover in 2011.

I liked the 1100 motor but the fueling was awful. Lots of pinging even on the highest grade fuel readily available. At the time the fix was $1,100. As for the rest of the bike its a little big to for a town bike and too small for a touring bike. Its also very looooooooong and handles slower than I prefer. The fuel range is also not very good. At 125 miles you better start looking for fuel at 150 miles you'll be hitchhiking to the nearest gas station.

Flame proof shoot on - To be honest I wouldn't buy a 4V Griso or any other 4V Guzzi. I also wouldn't value a 2V Griso at or near $4,000. I'd be hard pressed to pay $2,500 for a prime example but my view is clouded by previous ownership.

Aesthetically the Griso checks all the boxes. To me its a much better piece of art than a useable motorcycle.

[Moto]

I liked the 1100 motor but the fueling was awful. Lots of pinging even on the highest grade fuel readily available.

I have never, ever experienced this, with my factory-original Griso 1100.

Moto

[molly]

Buy it after a bit of haggling, there won't be many other chances to get one. I would have another one as a spare if there was room in the garage.

[not-fishing]

I have 53,000 miles on mine and I keep wondering when I get to 100,000++  miles and it needs real work if I'm going restore it or just buy another for $4,000 or less.

Mark

[bad Chad]

These CARC bikes are solid!  I have a 07 Breva, close, slightly more restrained cousin to the Griso.  If the dash hasn't failed by now, I wouldn't worry about it.  Mine has been dam near perfect.

[stubbie]

A bit of haggling and it's yours for $3800

[Perazzimx14]

A bit of haggling and it's yours for $3800

Or wait it out a few weeks/months then with little to no haggeling you'll get it for substancially less. If someone steps in and pays at or near $4200 a fool and his money are soon parted. 

Flame proof suit still on but I challange someone to prove me wrong on an actually selling price in the last 6 months for an 11 year old Griso. Not a friends next door neighbor friends cousin barbors and actual known sale.

[Moto]

Or wait it out a few weeks/months then with little to no haggeling you'll get it for substancially less. If someone steps in and pays at or near $4200 a fool and his money are soon parted. 

Flame proof suit still on but I challange someone to prove me wrong on an actually selling price in the last 6 months for an 11 year old Griso. Not a friends next door neighbor friends cousin barbors and actual known sale.

Perrazimx, do your own research.

My advice would be not to worry too much about the money, but to try to decide if you like the bike well enough to pay enough to get it, even if it's above somebody's idea of the market value. If you buy Guzzis never planning to sell them, you're buying wisely. A couple hundred bucks for convenience now won't make any difference at all in the long run.

My opinion. Worth what you paid for it.

Moto

[Perazzimx14]

Perrazimx, do your own research.

My advice would be not to worry too much about the money, but to try to decide if you like the bike well enough to pay enough to get it, even if it's above somebody's idea of the market value. If you buy Guzzis never planning to sell them, you're buying wisely. A couple hundred bucks for convenience now won't make any difference at all in the long run.

My opinion. Worth what you paid for it.

Moto

So reverse about 6 threads back. I've owned a 2007 Griso + a few other Guzzi's to include Eldo's, 850T's, T3's. Converts, small blocks (modern and vintage),  Quotas, Bassa's. I'm fairly well versed on Guzzi's. I'm saying having owned a 2007 Griso I wouldn't pay (and would ne hard pressed) more than $2500 for a clean example. I could care less if you mortgage you house or sell you liver to buy one. It doesn't increase their likeability, value or salability.

Post up a Guzzi, any Guzzi and folks will fawn all over it! Taking about great they are and how it is a lot of bike for the money. If they were closer or had space in their garage they'd be all over it. The reality is the bike could be for sale next to their empty 30 car garage and the bike would  still be for sale. The new Guzzi market is abysmal at best, try selling an ordinary  11 year old model for top dollar, ain't happening.

For the record I bought my 2007 Griso OTD for 7,000 rode it for 6,000 miles and sold it a couple years later for $5,500. Since then I do not think the value has increased but steadily declined. Now the leftover 4V Griso's are being are being deeply discounted further killing the earlier 2V Griso values.

Again its your money spend it how you want.   

[Moto]

So reverse about 6 threads back. I've owned a 2007 Griso + a few other Guzzi's to include Eldo's, 850T's, T3's. Converts, small blocks (modern and vintage),  Quotas, Bassa's. I'm fairly well versed on Guzzi's. I'm saying having owned a 2007 Griso I wouldn't pay (and would ne hard pressed) more than $2500 for a clean example. I could care less if you mortgage you house or sell you liver to buy one. It doesn't increase their likeability, value or salability.

Post up a Guzzi, any Guzzi and folks will fawn all over it! Taking about great they are and how it is a lot of bike for the money. If they were closer or had space in their garage they'd be all over it. The reality is the bike could be for sale next to their empty 30 car garage and the bike would  still be for sale. The new Guzzi market is abysmal at best, try selling an ordinary  11 year old model for top dollar, ain't happening.

For the record I bought my 2007 Griso OTD for 7,000 rode it for 6,000 miles and sold it a couple years later for $5,500. Since then I do not think the value has increased but steadily declined. Now the leftover 4V Griso's are being are being deeply discounted further killing the earlier 2V Griso values.

Again its your money spend it how you want.

Look, I don't care about your opinion. I'm just saying don't be challenging people to prove you're wrong. Prove you're right yourself if your correctness matters so much to you.

FWIW, kbb.com says trade in for an excellent a good-condition example should be $3540 and retail  for an excellent one $5550 $5150 in my zip code. [Sorry for the multiple edits.] I don't care if they're right either.

I recommend we all enjoy riding and leave the market research to the horse traders. If you're too concerned about the prices you'll miss the fun.

You're taking this all too seriously.

Moto

[Perazzimx14]

Look, I don't care about your opinion. I'm just saying don't be challenging people to prove you're wrong. Prove you're right yourself if your correctness matters so much to you.

FWIW, kbb.com says trade in for an excellent example should be $3540 and retail $5550 in my zip code. I don't care if they're right either.

I recommend we all enjoy riding and leave the market research to the horse traders. If you're too concerned about the prices you'll miss the fun.

You're taking this all too seriously.

Moto

I surely do no care about your opinion. Having 1st hand experience with a 2007 Griso I know what I'd be willing to pay and anythign near $4000 is laughable.

[kingoffleece]

I just rode a 2 valve Griso that HAMLIN just put together.  It was really fun-outstanding, really.
My understanding is that those early bikes are fine.  Normal maintenance and a bit of extra grease notwithstanding.

[brider]

I passed on a 2007 Griso with less that 20k that was MINT for $3500 and I've been kicking myself ever since. Just sayin'. I've been looking since then and haven't seen.anything near that low price. Did research then, was convinced it was solid and low-risk.

Buy it.

[Red07]

Sold my 07 griso last year for $5500.  Low miles, (under 5k) with a lot of extras.  It now lives in St. Cloud Minn. 

I would probably give him exactly what he paid me to have it back.  I liked it that much.  Oh well.


Randy

[Huzo]

Yep.
Forget about what it's gunna' be worth when you sell it.
That's like saying you hope your mistress is still hot when you decide to divorce your missus, trying to have a couple of bob each way.
Forrrgetttaabbbaaar rrtt it...!
 If you want the bastard, it's going to be pointless canvassing for opinions, because when you get them they still won't be yours, unless you're waiting for someone to tell you what you want to hear...
(A gateway drug if ever there was)
My old Norge is "worth" about 5 grand in Oz dollars and I wouldn't sell it for 20 grand, because it IS worth what it's worth to ME, and that is not quantifiable in real terms.
These motor bicycles are an expensive indulgence at best, designed to enhance our lives, so once you decide the value of that little commodity, you'll know what to pay...

[Rough Edge racing]

 Thanks for the opinions...I'm causally looking for a Griso..First thing is to find one locally so I can take a ride...The Guzzi is a lot heavier than my Ducati and vintage Triumph ......I'm not one of those guys that goes by so called "Blue book" prices....I buy what I like and if it's 10 percent more ,so what, it's a motorcycle not a retirement fund...

[BRG-BIRD]

Sold my 07 griso last year for $5500.  Low miles, (under 5k) with a lot of extras.  It now lives in St. Cloud Minn. 

I would probably give him exactly what he paid me to have it back.  I liked it that much.  Oh well.


Randy

Randy

I personally know the gentleman that owns your Gris and it’s in great hands, he will take excellent care of it. Stay in touch with him as you could at some point have an opportunity to buy it back.

Mark

[Huzo]

Thanks for the opinions...I'm causally looking for a Griso..First thing is to find one locally so I can take a ride...The Guzzi is a lot heavier than my Ducati and vintage Triumph ......I'm not one of those guys that goes by so called "Blue book" prices....I buy what I like and if it's 10 percent more ,so what, it's a motorcycle not a retirement fund...

Bloody BINGO...!!!

[Jukebox]

" it's a motorcycle not a retirement fund...
Bloody BINGO...!!!

Both of you nailed it, I wish more people thought like this.

Here's mine.

[Huzo]

" it's a motorcycle not a retirement fund...
Bloody BINGO...!!!

Both of you nailed it, I wish more people thought like this.

Here's mine.

I don't know much about other Guzzies, but that's a 2 VPC isn't it ?
I had a go on one in the UK exactly the same and it pulled like a 14 year old schoolboy....!
No better or worse than my Norge but strong as hell.

[molly]

That is indeed a 1100 2 valve motor kicking out just about the same hp and torque as your 1200 2V Norge.
Makes you wonder why Guzzi bothered boring it out to 1200 only to replace it with the flawed 8 valve engine shortly afterwards.

Here's one I made earlier.