Get 'em while you can... handlebar switches: SP2 LM4 T5 V65 Lario

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Just noticed these on MG Cycle's website:
http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_140&products_id=5272&zenid=35626a80baa3165e0576fdf23e376ec4
http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_140&products_id=5273

[bigbikerrick]

Thats cool Charlie, Thanks for posting this. Man, I wish they had the right hand side switches for a LeMans IV !
Rick.

[bigbikerrick]

MG Cycle does have the right hand switch ! I am going to order one, I have fidgeted around with the bad contacts on mine for years!
Rick.

http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5273

[LeRoy]

...Man, I wish they had the right hand side switches for a LeMans IV !
...

Isn't that what this one is?

http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_140&products_id=5273

I'm going to order the pair.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

I linked to both in my original post.

[wirespokes]

Are they normally not available?

Mine have been working fine the last two years and 16K - no issues at all.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Are they normally not available?

Mine have been working fine the last two years and 16K - no issues at all.

Good, working ones are as rare as rocking horse poo normally. New ones are (were) pretty much unobtanium.

[pehayes]

I might go for a set.  Alas, looking at the inside picture I see that the wires are held in place by crimped rivets.  The heads of those rivets are rounded and serve as the contacting surface for the internal, brass sliders.  This was the base fault with the originals.  Connections get old, dirty, corroded and start to build heat.  As the rivets heat up, the heads recede into the surrounding plastic.  Thus making even less contact and generating more heat.  I cured mine by replacing the rivets with 2mm bolts and nuts.  Also by adding headlamp relays.  My mod has been good for years, but I'd still like to move up to newer (if not more modern) materials.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
SPII

[Chuck in Indiana]

I would have been on them like a duck on a june bug when I was "doing" the Lario. As it was, LeRoy sold me some used but good switches at an under the market price.  I put a bunch of relays on the AeroLario to keep them in service.
Yes, they have been like RHS (Roper content) for quite a while. I'll get these for spares before they turn into the same substance.

[guzzisteve]

Got to be the junkiest switches they ever used, I toss that stuff in the trash and replace w/CEV that was on LM5's or SP3's or Duc's . Black w/orange buttons. In the day I got Moto Morini's, had a headlight off switch.
Last ones I got from Guzzi had the off switch too.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Got to be the junkiest switches they ever used, I toss that stuff in the trash and replace w/CEV that was on LM5's or SP3's or Duc's . Black w/orange buttons. In the day I got Moto Morini's, had a headlight off switch.
Last ones I got from Guzzi had the off switch too.

If you junk the switches, then you have to replace the front master cylinder, throttle and clutch lever. Could get kind of expensive...

[guzzisteve]

Customer didn't mind at all, he had the cash.

[wirespokes]

I might go for a set.  Alas, looking at the inside picture I see that the wires are held in place by crimped rivets.  The heads of those rivets are rounded and serve as the contacting surface for the internal, brass sliders.  This was the base fault with the originals.  Connections get old, dirty, corroded and start to build heat.  As the rivets heat up, the heads recede into the surrounding plastic.  Thus making even less contact and generating more heat.  I cured mine by replacing the rivets with 2mm bolts and nuts.  Also by adding headlamp relays.  My mod has been good for years, but I'd still like to move up to newer (if not more modern) materials.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
SPII

Thanks, Patrick! I can think with that.

The PO of my LM IV replaced the switches a short time before selling it to me. The old ones look good and don't understand why they were replaced. Now that I understand the situation, I'll be able to keep them working a good long time.

[bigbikerrick]

"If you junk the switches, then you have to replace the front master cylinder, throttle and clutch lever. Could get kind of expensive."

The above reason($$$)is why I have not replaced mine with something different. I think using these  switches now available,with relays , they will be fine, and they should last a long time.
I still have a hard time getting used to the weird turn signal switch. I usually just use hand signals when I ride the Le Mans!
Rick.

[Chuck in Indiana]

I still have a hard time getting used to the weird turn signal switch.

It's just like on your car.. <shrug>
(yeah, I know. I had problems with it too, until I thought of it that way..)

[guzzisteve]

Customer didn't mind at all, he had the cash.

I know it's costly but customers want what they want. I get paid to do what they want. If a bike is 3-4 years old and and inside is melted or switches fall apart or little micro switches short. I trash it and put on better stuff. If you replace w/same it happens again.

[wirespokes]

I still have a hard time getting used to the weird turn signal switch. I usually just use hand signals when I ride the Le Mans!
Rick.

It's easy - just think of it like this: in a right turn the left side handle bar comes up. Left turn - it goes down. The switch is exactly the same - up for right, down for left.

[bigbikerrick]

It's easy - just think of it like this: in a right turn the left side handle bar comes up. Left turn - it goes down. The switch is exactly the same - up for right, down for left.

Thats a cool way to think of it Wirespokes! My wife  also told me" just think of it like the turn signal lever in a car...Up for right turn, and down for left turn"
I sure wish it would cancel by pressing the button in, like most bikes, returning the switch to center is tough sometimes when riding in crazy traffic! 
Rick.

[wirespokes]

I sure wish it would cancel by pressing the button in, like most bikes, returning the switch to center is tough sometimes when riding in crazy traffic! 
Rick.

I've got an answer for that one too. To activate the signal, press on the paddle part of the switch. When cancelling, press on the upper or lower section.

Often I don't instantly know which side to push, but it's easy enough pushing on the top side, and then the bottom side if not cancelled. It's more difficult activating the signals not using the paddle, but deactivating them that way works easily.

[jim mac]

They didnt last long   

[Chuck in Indiana]

They didnt last long   

Gone already? They've been NLA for *years.*

[janguzzi]

You can also order them in Germany:
https://hmb-guzzi.de/Sale

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

You can also order them in Germany:
https://hmb-guzzi.de/Sale

At twice the price...

[Chuck in Indiana]

Mine arrived from Cheesehead and Gordon yesterday. You snooze, you lose.. 
Having spares means the switches I reworked when building the Lario will be good forever..

[bigbikerrick]

I was going to order a pair, but the right side switches quickly sold out. I asked Gordon when they will have more, and he responded in about 3 weeks.
Wirespokes...Thats a great tip on cancelling the funky turn signals, I will give it a try
Thanks
Rick.!

[Groover]

How do the switches feel? Better, cheap-lier, or about the same as the OEM ones - just curious - it's great they are finally making reproductions!

[Chuck in Indiana]

How do the switches feel? Better, cheap-lier, or about the same as the OEM ones - just curious - it's great they are finally making reproductions!

Now you've done it. I had to take them out of the bag..I suppose that voids the warranty.  They're fine.

[Groover]

  Thanks for checking!