Author Topic: Bezzi / Barr Photoshop Phantasy Pthreadfest (Read 94147 times)

Dilliw · « **Reply #240 on:** February 20, 2015, 09:46:12 AM »

Quote from: rocker59 on February 20, 2015, 09:18:45 AM

I'm also a fan of short stroke Italian twins, so would love that bike with the modern 4v heads and either 940cc (850 crank/1200 top end) or 1100cc (850 crank/1400 top end).

That 1400 top end would make a serious Jane Russell homage.

Steph · « **Reply #241 on:** February 20, 2015, 08:27:04 PM »

Came up on twitter a few days ago and thought ok, 8/10.
Can't live in the past...

guzzler · « **Reply #242 on:** February 20, 2015, 09:56:40 PM »

I reckon it would look better with twin pies as well.
But this curmudgeon likes it!
Cheers Guzzler.

redrider · « **Reply #243 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:09:02 AM »

A friend rides a Griso. We swapped out. He wants my engine characteristics.(V11 Café Sport this time)

Turin · « **Reply #244 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:23:55 AM »

Quote

Lets face it double overhead cams and four valve heads are for bragging rights, not much use on the public roads.

I'm going to disagree with that.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #245 on:** February 21, 2015, 12:31:26 PM »

Quote from: Turin on February 21, 2015, 11:23:55 AM

I'm going to disagree with that.

I second that!

Lannis · « **Reply #246 on:** February 21, 2015, 12:42:05 PM »

Quote from: kirby1923 on February 20, 2015, 09:00:23 AM

Lets face it double overhead cams and four valve heads are for bragging rights, not much use on the public roads.

For those of you who disagree with the above ^^^^^^ ..... you have to combine it with this below vvvvvv

Quote from: kirby1923 on February 20, 2015, 09:00:23 AM

No matter how hard I ride my VFR on the street, which has near 100 Hp at the rear wheel, do I use even half that?

He's right about that, for MOST riders. A SOHC motor (or even a pushrod motor) with two valves per head will produce more horsepower than most riders either can or will use on the street ....

Lannis

Turin · « **Reply #247 on:** February 21, 2015, 02:36:53 PM »

I disagree that DOHC cams (which takes this out of the guzzi realm since no guzzi has ever had that) and 4 valves per cylinder are for "bragging rights and not much use on public roads") That statement is far too generalized.
DOHC engines have the potential to make an engine more efficient and therefore more powerful .
What kind of power you need or want on a road vehicle is subjective. I know where my "Goldilocks Zone" for HP is.

Penderic · « **Reply #248 on:** February 28, 2015, 08:53:22 PM »

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/moto-guzzi-ginza-anticipated-by-oberdan-bezzi-shows-some-evil-muscle-92757.html#

Whoa! That looks serious! :o

What do you think of it?

redrider · « **Reply #249 on:** February 28, 2015, 08:58:09 PM »

Updated Centauro swoop with a 1400 engine. I like it.

Penderic · « **Reply #250 on:** February 28, 2015, 09:08:15 PM »

Wishful thinking? I know it is a photo shopped drawing but I wonder if some of the details are technically possible as shown .... like the shift linkage. It just looks too simple (elegant?) to be really possible. ( I am thinking of my own V7 Classic's shift linkage complexity)

Turin · « **Reply #251 on:** February 28, 2015, 09:18:04 PM »

I know that piece of tubular frame (stelvio?) probably won't make it into production. :beat_horse

Semper-guzzi · « **Reply #252 on:** February 28, 2015, 10:02:04 PM »

Looks cool, don't think the 1400s lines will change that dramatically in the upcoming years.

LowRyter · « **Reply #253 on:** February 28, 2015, 11:06:21 PM »

I like the mid mounts.

Give me a round headlight and tour pack. ;-T

oldbike54 · « **Reply #254 on:** February 28, 2015, 11:18:06 PM »

Quote from: LowRyter on February 28, 2015, 11:06:21 PM

I like the mid mounts.

Give me a round headlight and tour pack. ;-T

That thing has your name written all over it John :D

Dusty

Mayor_of_BBQ · « **Reply #255 on:** February 28, 2015, 11:54:19 PM »

This is in no way a Guzzi drawing or a real Guzzi concept

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Lannis · « **Reply #256 on:** March 01, 2015, 12:05:34 AM »

Quote from: Mayor_of_BBQ on February 28, 2015, 11:54:19 PM

This is in no way a Guzzi drawing or a real Guzzi concept

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Our rocker59's going to have a conniption fit over THIS one .... !

Lannis

Vasco DG · « **Reply #257 on:** March 01, 2015, 02:24:37 AM »

Take a handful of Yamaha V-Max, chuck in a grab-bag of any old shite from a variety of bikes, some of which might be Guzzis, overlay the whole lot over the least modern chassis and frame that Guzzi make and throw the 1400 motor at it.

Put the idea up on a website, top it off with an ugly headlight and wait for people to be amazed.

Obviously my capacity for amazement is lacking. It's just another photoshop turd that's been rolled in glitter.

Pete

Muzz · « **Reply #258 on:** March 01, 2015, 02:27:13 AM »

You have a way with words Pete........... ;D

guzziownr · « **Reply #259 on:** March 01, 2015, 08:41:52 AM »

You probably won't like this one either: Stornello 850

He doesn't work for Guzzi: http://thekneeslider.com/motorcycle-designs-from-oberdan-bezzi/

From the net: "Mr Bezzi is a good illustrator but he is a bad designer!"

Penderic · « **Reply #260 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:14:18 AM »

I like it!

Face it friends. The fantasy is often better than the final product that ends up on the showroom floor.

Now if you got the money, time, and talent, I am sure anyone could build a nice working prototype that everyone will, ehem, appreciate...

:D

However, if you only had a little time and talent .....

:pop

rocker59 · « **Reply #261 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:21:32 AM »

Quote from: Lannis on March 01, 2015, 12:05:34 AM

Our rocker59's going to have a conniption fit over THIS one .... !

Lannis

Yep.

I swear, sometime when I have time, all of these Oberdan Bezzi posts are going to get dumped into a merged threadfest...

M0T0Geezer · « **Reply #262 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:25:02 AM »

Griso is a hard act to follow but this one could pull it off!

'Geezer

rocker59 · « **Reply #263 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:28:08 AM »

Quote from: M0T0Geezer on March 01, 2015, 09:25:02 AM

Griso is a hard act to follow but this one could pull it off!

'Geezer

Let's put aside for a moment that this is a fantasy image from a Photoshop Hack.

Then, tell me how a California 1400 based special can be compared to a Griso? In any way... Other than the fact that they're both Guzzis...

rocker59 · « **Reply #264 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:43:01 AM »

Quote from: rocker59 on March 01, 2015, 09:21:32 AM

Yep.

I swear, sometime when I have time, all of these Oberdan Bezzi posts are going to get dumped into a merged threadfest...

OK. I'm making time...

:+=copcar

biking sailor · « **Reply #265 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:44:03 AM »

Well, we have heard that the Griso concept is due for an update. Not sayin' this is it, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the 1400 motor used in a power cruiser format with the standard or slightly rear set pegs and forward lean ergos.

Of course a street version would have real mudguards and then a method to fit side cases... Could it be?

rocker59 · « **Reply #266 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:53:15 AM »

Quote from: biking sailor on March 01, 2015, 09:44:03 AM

Well, we have heard that the Griso concept is due for an update. Not sayin' this is it, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the 1400 motor used in a power cruiser format with the standard or slightly rear set pegs and forward lean ergos.

Of course a street version would have real mudguards and then a method to fit side cases... Could it be?

So, you think that they'll kill the current Griso platform, not replace it, and use the "GRiSO" name on a California variant?

I'm not following you. There is about 200 lbs difference between a California and a Griso, plus couple dozen others...

biking sailor · « **Reply #267 on:** March 01, 2015, 10:31:10 AM »

Don't really know enough about the Cali 1400 frame, but would suspect it is heavily overbuilt, along with the suspension.

So a more sporting frame (lighter weight) and suspension (USD forks and single shock swing arm) built around the 1400 engine and drive train could get the weight closer to the power cruiser competition. Those bikes aren't exactly know for being light, the Ducati being the exception, kinda. ;)

Penderic · « **Reply #268 on:** March 01, 2015, 10:37:00 AM »

The article said something about the name Ginza been the next Guzzi's models actual name.

Thats a good name progression from Grizo to Ginza.

And a good nickname would be Gina and have a "L" model so I could call it Gina Lollobrigida! :-*

rocker59 · « **Reply #269 on:** March 01, 2015, 10:51:55 AM »

Quote from: Penderic on March 01, 2015, 10:37:00 AM

The article said something about the name Ginza been the next Guzzi's models actual name.

Yeah. The name sounds like a great idea. :-\

Ginza: a district in Tokyo, Japan, famous for its department stores, nightclubs, and bars.

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Author Topic: Bezzi / Barr Photoshop Phantasy Pthreadfest (Read 94147 times)

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