Author Topic: The V7 shifting / shifter problems & questions thread (Read 60162 times)

roofus · « **Reply #30 on:** May 26, 2011, 05:39:46 PM »

Mine has similar issues but it seems to be improving as it breaks in.

Arizona Wayne · « **Reply #31 on:** May 26, 2011, 05:50:19 PM »

My 750 Breva did the same thing when it was cold(40F or colder) in the morning first starting out. I put 75W-90 oil in the tranny instead of the 80W-90 oil recommended. End of cold weather problem. ;-T

Muzz · « **Reply #32 on:** May 27, 2011, 04:21:55 PM »

Quote from: Arizona Wayne on May 26, 2011, 05:50:19 PM

My 750 Breva did the same thing when it was cold(40F or colder) in the morning first starting out. I put 75W-90 oil in the tranny instead of the 80W-90 oil recommended. End of cold weather problem. ;-T

Come to think of it, semi- synthetic 75/90 is what has gone in to it from new.

Thunderbox · « **Reply #33 on:** May 30, 2011, 09:27:08 AM »

Quote from: bigwaves on May 25, 2011, 06:37:00 PM

Thanks for all the great advice worked perfect. Got to love these V7C!

So what was the problem after all. You never said what the fix was. We need to know!!!!!!

falcone · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2011, 04:40:04 PM »

As with at least one other comment here when I collected my bike from the dealers back in 2008, the gearshift in to and out of first was terrible. Terrible to the point that I eventually pulled over after a few miles and made some basic adjustments to the clutch and lever myself and it was fine thereafter. Can't say I was overly impressed with the dealer - a Guzzi specialist - hadn't been set up correctly at all. Never a problem since.

slowmover · « **Reply #35 on:** July 21, 2011, 09:41:46 AM »

my 2010 v7 classic makes a lot of noise downshifting-i,ve tried adjusting the clutch lever, using different positions , ect-this is my first guzzi-is it standard to have this loud clacking while shifting-it just got 1500 miles on it-it happens upshifting on occasion too

slowmover · « **Reply #36 on:** July 21, 2011, 10:38:10 AM »

hello there-my 2010 v7 classic makes lots of noise mostly downshifting-i've tried adjusting the clutch lever and can't seem to find the right position to stop the loud clacking-is this standard on guzzi's? this is my first one-it also happens half the time upshifting-i'm waiting to fall in love-it has 1500 miles on it now

sign216 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 21, 2011, 01:10:47 PM »

On some bikes there can be noise when the clutch is pulled in, or when sitting in neutral. The noise should be eliminated or greatly reduced when in gear and running.

It's from the clutch plates, or the vibrating plate springs. The noise is amplified by the clutch bell, and is a characteristic of the dry clutch.

If you're worried, have another Guzzi or Ducati rider listen to it. Ducatis have dry clutchs too, and are famous for the noise.

Joe

Muzz · « **Reply #38 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:08:35 PM »

Our Breva does the rustle on idle, but no noise on downshifting. Shifts slicker than a lizzard up a drainpipe.

NOLAGuzzi · « **Reply #39 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:28:48 PM »

If I keep the clutch in while coming to a stop over bumpy terrain my breva makes a good bit of noise. It has always done that.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:35:19 PM »

The "clunks" and "clinks" in the tranny as well as the Italian percussion section under your valve covers are all part of the "classic" in V7 Classic. Normal.
Now enjoy those sounds. ;-T
-Kev

muzak · « **Reply #41 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:36:42 PM »

Mine gives a hefty "clunk" when downshifting, occasionally. Particularly when going in first from neutral. I've understood this to be normal.

nick949 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 21, 2011, 03:08:47 PM »

My 2007 Breva 1100 gives a healthy clunk about 50% of time whether upshifting or downshifting. Other times I hardly know I've changed gear at all. It never misses a gear though and there doesn't seem to be any technique I can devise to change it. I'm assuming its character too.

Amazingly my Eldo has the slickest box of the three. I put it down to the higher miles.

Nick

ItalianSpiderman · « **Reply #43 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:49:36 PM »

For upshifts, pre-load the shift lever with your foot, then roll off the throttle 25% combined with a quick stab of the clutch - transmission unloading does the rest (snick, no clunk). Full throttle upshifts need no clutch at all. For downshifts, blip the throttle 50% while simultaneously pulling in the clutch, followed by gear change and letting out clutch. This should be all one smooth motion and works best with bikes that have slipper clutches. These techniques work real well with the V7C. The only clunks are the occasional ones going in and out of first gear. Not to sound like a commercial, but I rode many years before I read about proper shifting techniques in Lee Park's Total Control book. Smooth shifting saves wear on your transmission!

oldmanjob · « **Reply #44 on:** July 21, 2011, 07:05:21 PM »

I have no problem with mine, shifts as smooth as silk, up and down ;-T Heading towards the 16,000 mile mark ;D :D :BEER:

The old Bill ;D

Vasco DG · « **Reply #45 on:** July 21, 2011, 10:14:38 PM »

As has already been sais, match the engine speed to the road speed for the gear as you change down by blipping the throttle. Especially when new the five speeds in the smallblocks seem to be very 'Tight'. I'll probably get better with time.

VDG

IceBlue · « **Reply #46 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:47:34 AM »

I'd say too that it has to do with riding style. I can shift gears using my clutch and adapting rpm's and it will sound like an automatic transmission. I can also make it sound like a semi truck missing/jamming its gears :D

It's all in the wrists of your hands and you left footty ;-T SB's transmission mostly works very nice in spite of its old fashion design, just DON'T let the lube level get below 1L :o ;)

Ciao

BillinAbilene · « **Reply #47 on:** July 22, 2011, 05:40:50 AM »

Quote from: iceblue on July 22, 2011, 01:47:34 AM

I'd say too that it has to do with riding style. I can shift gears using my clutch and adapting rpm's and it will sound like an automatic transmission. I can also make it sound like a semi truck missing/jamming its gears :D

;-T Said another way, some days I'm a Rider 8) ....and some days I'm a Dufus. ::)

Moto Fugazzi · « **Reply #48 on:** July 22, 2011, 09:44:47 AM »

The shifting gets better as it breaks in. I'm assuming the tranny oil was changed at the first service? A good quality oil helps with shifting.
For proper clutch adjustment, there should be 1-2mm of freeplay at the clutch lever. No freeplay is bad-it can cause clutch plate problems. I've noticed that my bike shifts better with less freeplay. YMMV.

nosail · « **Reply #49 on:** August 13, 2011, 07:50:52 PM »

Picked up my new V7 Racer today. It shifts fine up and down however when coming to a stop or at a stop it will not go into neutral. Extreme pressure is required to move from first to second or second to first when idling at a stop. If I shut the engine off it goes into neutral no problem. The dealer seemed to think things were stiff and needed seating in but after a couple hundred km's it's just as bad. I seem to remember reading a post about a V7 with shifting problems but I can't find anything. Has anyone else had this problem? Other than that my first impression is this is going to be a fun little bike. It even manages to haul my fat a$$ around ;D
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #50 on:** August 13, 2011, 07:52:12 PM »

clutch cable adjustment?

nosail · « **Reply #51 on:** August 13, 2011, 07:58:53 PM »

When I took it back to the dealer that's what we looked at and checked but he didn't think that was the problem but that's what it feels like to me.

owassojoe · « **Reply #52 on:** August 13, 2011, 07:59:54 PM »

I"m not sure they'll fit, but I can send you a couple of extras from my EVT. They don't light the light though. ;D

Frank Smith · « **Reply #53 on:** August 13, 2011, 08:09:28 PM »

Mine does that. It's hard to find mechanical neutral unless you are rolling. I think it is just a very tightly assembled transmission. Another 20,000 miles on them will make us appreciate this quirk. It will loosen up with miles.

What number did you get and where was the delivery?

nosail · « **Reply #54 on:** August 13, 2011, 08:16:10 PM »

The dealer is in Chilliwack BC. He ordered 4 but only received 3. #57,58 and 61. I was first in line so got to pick my number and seeing as I'm 58 and my wife was born in 58 that made it simple. #58

Wayne Orwig · « **Reply #55 on:** August 13, 2011, 08:37:23 PM »

Clutch adjustment.

WHY · « **Reply #56 on:** August 13, 2011, 09:40:23 PM »

Hey Rick, mine (#61) is the same, i don't have a chance to bring the bike back yet. mine feels like when the clutch level fully squeeze, the clutch didn't disengage all the way. sometime I cant even shift up when the bike is moving (specially 1 to 2 and 2nd to 3rd). I have to left the gear level up before I squeeze the clutch to shift up.
How do you adjust the clutch on these V7 racer?

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:04:29 PM »

Quote from: WHY on August 13, 2011, 09:40:23 PM

Hey Rick, mine (#61) is the same, i don't have a chance to bring the bike back yet. mine feels like when the clutch level fully squeeze, the clutch didn't disengage all the way. sometime I cant even shift up when the bike is moving (specially 1 to 2 and 2nd to 3rd). I have to left the gear level up before I squeeze the clutch to shift up.
How do you adjust the clutch on these V7 racer?

If it is notably easier to shift down than to shift up, ask the dealer to adjust the bolt at the rear of the tranny. DO NOT DO THIS YOURSELF!!! You take it 1/6th turn at a time one way or the other (because who knows which way does what?) and if it gets worse you went the wrong way, if better than you have your answer. If you take the bolt too far (more likely more than 1/2 turn) you will be pulling the transmission. >:(
I'm only saying that this is the adjustment for the problem of up-shifts being troublesome in comparison to down-shifts, or the opposite. In the case that some shifts hit false-neutrals, or sometimes things are good and other times they're not, I would give it time to settle in or try adjusting the cable at the bars to make sure it has precise slack, then give it time. These bikes need to break in over several thousand miles.
-Kevin

dilligaf · « **Reply #58 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:24:20 PM »

For some reason your clutch is dragging making neutral difficult to find when stopped with the motor running. When you shift up it goes into second or when you shift down it goes into first. I suspect you are not having trouble finding neutral when the motorcycle is rolling or as you stated with the engine stopped. I also suspect rocking the motorcycle back and forth while shifting seem to help. If you are satisfied all external adjustments are correct then slid the transmission back and check the clutch splines for starters. Your clutch or a clutch component could be warped however if this were the case I would also expect to see some chatter. I would take a hard look at the splines of both the clutch and the transmission input spline/gear. Your motorcycle should shift correctly right off of the show room floor.
Matt

dilligaf · « **Reply #59 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:29:33 PM »

Quote from: WHY on August 13, 2011, 09:40:23 PM

Hey Rick, mine (#61) is the same, i don't have a chance to bring the bike back yet. mine feels like when the clutch level fully squeeze, the clutch didn't disengage all the way. sometime I cant even shift up when the bike is moving (specially 1 to 2 and 2nd to 3rd). I have to left the gear level up before I squeeze the clutch to shift up.
How do you adjust the clutch on these V7 racer?

You can do the same thing without pulling in the clutch lever infact, with some exceptions, you can shift any motorcycle that way. Your clutch is dragging. Please see above.
Matt

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Author Topic: The V7 shifting / shifter problems & questions thread (Read 60162 times)

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