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Re: "Super" Lario build started (final carburation 9/20)
« Reply #120 on: November 05, 2014, 11:23:41 AM »
Found the beast was still running too lean with 165 mains so boosted it a half size to 168's. Plugs don't seem to be burning up now and are looking more tan than white. I have 170's in case they're needed. Sad day as it's been laid up to slumber for the winter. Time to get on to the "projects" part of it again. Now I just need time. I can rest now knowing the functional aspects are right where I want them. Cosmetics are next.
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Re: "Super" Lario build started (final carburation 11/5)
« Reply #121 on: January 13, 2015, 09:11:43 PM »
Seat project started today. Cut the sheet metal and will take this to my seat upholsterer for welding, etc.  More soon.
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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #122 on: January 20, 2015, 05:56:07 PM »
Figured out the under-seat arrangement. A little over/under of the original bits and it's finished. Level and solid. Tomorrow I get the seat back to do some fitting.


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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #123 on: January 20, 2015, 07:36:26 PM »
Eager to see it!


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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #124 on: January 22, 2015, 01:20:30 PM »
Seat tacked and bent to final shape. Time to bring it back for upholstery (pic thrown in). Threw in a little piece of bling from MG on the steering head.









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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #125 on: February 01, 2015, 08:35:21 PM »
Since I'm waiting for my seat I figured I should get after the fender and mounts. Did some playing and decided on a wrap mount. There will be a rear one also.






I use this respirator from the wood shop for cutting this fiberglass. I also prefer to use this thin cutter as it creates very little dust. It also cuts very precisely.  Make the line and take a few passes to cut through. Use sandpaper to even it out.





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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #126 on: February 01, 2015, 10:12:47 PM »
What was the starting point for your fender Kev? That's no Lario stocker.. Is it a generic blank or.,...


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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #127 on: February 01, 2015, 10:27:14 PM »
It's Airtech stuff; both the fender and LM1 fairing.  Fender has been slimmed down a lot.  Will cut the back off after I decide exactly where I want it.  It's easy stuff to work with.  You just want to make sure you start with a fender that has the right radius to fit the wheel.  This one was perfect.

BTW... the stocker doesn't fit the Marzocchi's hence the re-make. 
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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #128 on: February 02, 2015, 06:42:30 AM »
Nice job so far-but tell me, is the Lario 4 valve still a Heron design? I have little experience with the smallblocks but I'm getting interested.

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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #129 on: February 02, 2015, 07:11:26 AM »
Nice job so far-but tell me, is the Lario 4 valve still a Heron design? I have little experience with the smallblocks but I'm getting interested.

Yep, it's a flat head..
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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #130 on: February 02, 2015, 09:00:01 AM »
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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #131 on: February 02, 2015, 09:21:41 AM »
Nice job so far-but tell me, is the Lario 4 valve still a Heron design? I have little experience with the smallblocks but I'm getting interested.
As shown in the picture, it has a pent-roof combustion chamber.

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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #132 on: February 02, 2015, 11:42:58 AM »
My bad. <blush> That's what I get for typing before the coffee kicks in.. sorry.
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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #133 on: February 02, 2015, 12:40:22 PM »
My bad. <blush> That's what I get for typing before the coffee kicks in.. sorry.

New engine fumes will do that to you!  :D
GOing to pick up seat.  Stay tuned.
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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #134 on: February 02, 2015, 01:06:08 PM »
Thanks for the info. I wondered how they'd fit 4 valves into a Heron head with that bore!

So the next question, what do folk think, hemi or 4 valve pent roof in this application? Or is the Lario valve train too troublesome for volume production?

I just wonder because it wouldn't take much more power to make the small block kick butt in the modern world, and the 4 valver should handle emissions better.

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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #135 on: February 02, 2015, 01:15:36 PM »
Chuck's aero engine will be telling. We don't know yet what that will bring though we suspect good stuff. I like my Lario engines and their 4-valve heads, but you must proceed with caution with them. There's no reason they can't be made right. I'm hoping the measures I took with this "super" Lario hopped up 15% will fair well. I agree it doesn't take much more power to make the sb a real hoot. I hope they're listening.  :wife:
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Re: "Super" Lario build started
« Reply #136 on: February 02, 2015, 08:17:43 PM »
The seat is home and fits splendid. It's hard to tell, but it's a stressed tan that looks great in person. This was done locally at Mark's Upholstery in Jenison, MI..  He's a wonderful guy to work with. You'll see that he strobes the cross-stitching by going larger to smaller. I like it myself as it gives some depth and isn't perfectly uniform.









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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2015, 06:30:25 PM »
Fender mounted. Thanks Chuck for the clearance specs. Around 20mm as I feel that's safe. Lots of work to get things just right. She's solid!!





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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #138 on: February 07, 2015, 09:39:53 PM »
Looking good!!!

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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2015, 09:51:59 PM »
Looking like a good, healthy runner!
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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #140 on: February 07, 2015, 10:33:53 PM »
Looks great with the brown seat, the flush headlight in that LM1 fairing, and the custom cut fender :thumb


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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #141 on: February 08, 2015, 06:17:17 AM »
Hopefully, the nuts on the fender don't compromise the clearance too much?
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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #142 on: February 08, 2015, 08:09:18 AM »
Hopefully, the nuts on the fender don't compromise the clearance too much?

Yeah, that was all in the figures. There's plenty of room for something that might get picked up. There's also nothing sharp as the nut is a perfect fit to the end of the screw w/lock washer.
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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #143 on: February 08, 2015, 08:11:23 AM »
Nice job of forming the fender mounts..
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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #144 on: February 08, 2015, 08:31:48 AM »
Nice job of forming the fender mounts..

Lots of thumb work on that as well as vice with hardwood inserts for the tight bends. I got some experience with aluminum bending on my LM fairing. I braced the entire horizontal length where the windscreen screws into the fiberglass. There's a perfect groove to fit a bar along that space. I did this so that I could make runs up to it for bracing w/o compromising the fiberglass. The windscreen puts pressure enough on it. I realized in bending that how easy aluminum is to form if you take it slow. Once you kink an area you're pretty much through.
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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2015, 08:38:51 AM »
Here's the question now; do I paint it black to (essentially) disappear, or red along with the fairing for tire jewelry?  Red would give s but more "classic" look but not sure I'm after that much "class". I need input!
Thanks

Edit: I won't have a tail fender, just s tail "tidy". Maybe this makes sense to go black?
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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #146 on: February 12, 2015, 10:18:49 PM »
Did some adjusting of the taillights now that the seat is finished. Raised over an inch up under the seat.

Fab'd a mount and painted it:

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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #147 on: February 13, 2015, 01:12:36 AM »
Raising that plate looks a LOT better.  Funny how a small change can make a dramatic difference in appearance.

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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #148 on: February 17, 2015, 04:16:40 PM »
Alright, got her done. Fender now in black. Another check off the to-do list. Nondescript yet dressy.





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Re: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build
« Reply #149 on: February 17, 2015, 06:30:17 PM »
Oh yeah!  You are getting the baby LM look going now!  Sweet ride!

 

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