Author Topic: 93 1000S (Read 25608 times)

rodekyll · « **Reply #30 on:** April 18, 2015, 04:15:51 PM »

Most folks who come here looking for the value of their bikes give a ballpark figure, features list, condition and pics, and a discussion ensues, with the owner answering detail questions about what he's got. It's kinda what's expected. In fairness, you did say in your OP that you were thinking about selling it and were asking value and marketing questions. You didn't say "I've got this thing for sale -- make offers." In that regard I can understand you getting annoyed by lowball offers. Me, I don't know that bike from a Suzuki as far as why it's special and what the value might be. My first reaction to $5-6K was that it must be something, since most Guzzis of that vintage go for <$4k in 9/10 condition. I was quite surprised to see estimates of twice that.

So it's entirely possible that the lowballers didn't know what the value could be, either, but it's human nature to take a chance on something attractive. They ballparked it low. I don't think they meant to be insulting.

But regardless, if you'd repeated up top that you're just looking for help establishing the value, and especially if you posted pictures, I think the results would have been better. It's not too late to do that. There are folks who know the model here who could give an honest opinion if they could get a picture of it, and a lot of folks, like me, who would like to see what all the fuss is about.

Historically on this site we get a few folks every year who put things up for sale but refuse to give a price, pictures, history, or responsive answers to questions about it. Then they get abusive when blind offers are made that they feel are lowballing. With a nod to the above where I acknowledge that yours wasn't a sales topic, this thread followed the historic pattern to a "T". The reaction of the members was predictable, and in light of your last comment, they might feel they overreacted a little, too.

I'm not in the market for another motorcycle and I have no idea what you've got or what it's worth so I've no dog inn the fight, but for what it's worth I think if you got some pics up and some of the questions answered you could get the discussion back on track.

[edit] I see folks are already leaning that way . . . :)

$0.02, ymmv, and all that.

Mayor_of_BBQ · « **Reply #31 on:** April 18, 2015, 05:02:05 PM »

Ok I'll bite
Worth between $6k and $14k

Hard to be more specific without pics

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Turin · « **Reply #32 on:** April 18, 2015, 05:42:00 PM »

As far as modern Guzzis go the 1000S is highly desirable and a lot of us would love to own one. What you unintentionally did was dangle a steak in the front of a kennel. You can't blame a few of us for taking shots in the dark.
I guess by now you got the hint that we want to see pictures of the bike. I think it's fair that in exchange for getting a value for your 1000s, you share a little bike porn. ;D
IMO if it was a '91 with the big valve motor it would be more desirable.
My guesstimate would be between 8-10 thou for a really nice '93.

jackson · « **Reply #33 on:** April 18, 2015, 05:58:03 PM »

What "rodekyll" said.
+1

blackcat · « **Reply #34 on:** April 18, 2015, 07:01:34 PM »

Hey, my bike!

Hasn't changed much in 15 years except for the rear brake light and the seat.

Can't imagine ever selling the bike.

daytonars97 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:19:21 PM »

Quote from: p.smitty on April 17, 2015, 06:57:09 PM

I am the owner of a 93 1000S VIN 250023, #23 of 84 built in 1993. Green (of course). I know that it's a desirable and rare bike. I'm considering selling it. It is in very good condition. About 25K miles. It has original paint, wire rims, seat, etc. only modifications are "old style" tail light and blinkers (have originals) and Conti replicas and (I do not have the original mufflers). Runs and sounds great!
I guess that I'm inquiring what the current value is on this bike as well as the best way to market this bike should I decide to sell it. I haven't seen any current sales of any 1000S' in a few years.

Pat

Brilliant marketing disguised as ....

Green1000S · « **Reply #36 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:29:58 PM »

Pat sent me pictures, I can confirm that it is a very nice and clean 1000S.
Almost a spitting image of mine.

As such, I would put the value between 11-12K. I would not sell mine below that anyway.

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #37 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:44:35 PM »

Quote from: Green1000S on April 18, 2015, 08:29:58 PM

Pat sent me pictures,

Post them and we can all agree.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #38 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:46:42 PM »

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I'd say low 5 figures. Others may differ..

I made the first reply. <shrug> Assuming it's as he says, I'll stick by that.

Kent in Upstate NY · « **Reply #39 on:** April 18, 2015, 08:47:20 PM »

This sounds like an earlier poster who was vague and sounded a whole lot like Savannah John.

Dilliw · « **Reply #40 on:** April 18, 2015, 09:43:26 PM »

Quote from: rodekyll on April 18, 2015, 02:43:41 PM

I think the first two snotty comments in the topic went something like these:

And having met the Mayor in person at the VA rally last year I can confirm he's not that "snotty".

Turin · « **Reply #41 on:** April 18, 2015, 10:01:56 PM »

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This sounds like an earlier poster who was vague and sounded a whole lot like Savannah John.

Savannah John... you mean John in Savannah who was banned?

pk · « **Reply #42 on:** April 18, 2015, 10:42:05 PM »

Once again, I apologize for overreacting. I felt a bit "accused" and I realize that I need to "grow a pair" over this issue. But, if I was really ready to sell my bike, I would have a lot of current pictures ready. I will forward a few along after I take some as well as some pictures of a couple other Guzzi's that I have tucked away. It's just that I have too many hobbies and feel like I need to "thin the herd" in order to feel less overwhelmed.

Thanks Again,

Pat

Turin · « **Reply #43 on:** April 18, 2015, 11:23:45 PM »

No problem. We really like pictures on this board. Old, new whatever. Share as many as you like, even non guzzi pics.

Welcome, BTW.

Mayor_of_BBQ · « **Reply #44 on:** April 19, 2015, 08:11:01 AM »

While the big valve motor might be 'more desirable' from a max hp standpoint.. Doesn't the mid valve have more midrange umph??

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Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #45 on:** April 19, 2015, 08:52:25 AM »

Quote from: Mayor_of_BBQ on April 19, 2015, 08:11:01 AM

While the big valve motor might be 'more desirable' from a max hp standpoint.. Doesn't the mid valve have more midrange umph??

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The mid valve engine is arguably the best of the 2 valve big blocks. Plenty of torque, tractable, and doesn't have the accelerated valve guide wear issue of the big valve engines. That said, the big valve engine is kool. ;D

Maaka · « **Reply #46 on:** April 19, 2015, 08:56:41 AM »

if that green thing without the headlight is the bike for sale, tell me how much you want for it, and I will think it over.

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #47 on:** April 19, 2015, 09:24:45 AM »

Quote from: Maaka on April 19, 2015, 08:56:41 AM

if that green thing without the headlight is the bike for sale, tell me how much you want for it, and I will think it over.

Um, no that was posted by me. as are all the pics in this post accept for one from Blackcat..

we still have not seen the OP's bike.

guzzi ride · « **Reply #48 on:** April 19, 2015, 10:07:20 AM »

p.smitty, I'll be happy to offer my opinion as to price after you post a few pics.
I own a 93 green as well and have watched e-bay and other sites for many years
as to current prices.

Big Block Jon · « **Reply #49 on:** April 19, 2015, 01:25:13 PM »

The "green thing without a headlight" is mine, and it has a headlight, it was removed in that picture because I was fitting up a Lemans fairing to the bike and was making up some headlight bracket extenders and so forth in order to get things to fit. Foto very kindly helped me with some wiring issues regarding aftermarket turn-signals.
It's not for sale.

drw916 · « **Reply #50 on:** April 19, 2015, 02:03:04 PM »

Well, I just saw Pat's bike this morning at breakfast and it's a beauty.

Very clean, very nice , and sounds fantastic.

pk · « **Reply #51 on:** April 19, 2015, 02:38:27 PM »

Well.....I took some pictures of my 93 'S' this morning. If you like "Guzzi Porn", I'll take a few of a couple other bikes as I bring them out of hibernation.

Pat

http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/psmitty1/slideshow/93%201000S

jackson · « **Reply #52 on:** April 19, 2015, 04:50:42 PM »

;-T ;-T
That's a nice looking Guzzi.

Maaka · « **Reply #53 on:** April 19, 2015, 06:34:45 PM »

what a shame Big Block, I could have looked adequately mean and cool, astride that lovely piece of machinery

canuck750 · « **Reply #54 on:** April 19, 2015, 06:36:13 PM »

Very nice bike, thank you for posting the pictures, I think it would be very hard to part with such a lovely bike.

If you decide to sell it I hope you offer it for sale here on the Wildguzzi site 1st.

Cam3512 · « **Reply #55 on:** April 19, 2015, 06:55:33 PM »

Quote from: Maaka on April 19, 2015, 06:34:45 PM

what a shame Big Block, I could have looked adequately mean and cool, astride that lovely piece of machinery

They're out there, you just have to pony up the bucks!

Funny, they were over $9K new and no one wanted 'em.

Triple Jim · « **Reply #56 on:** April 19, 2015, 06:59:59 PM »

$9,000 in '93 is about the same as $14,600 today, according to the Bureau of Labor. That's holding resale value pretty well, I'd say.

rocker59 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 19, 2015, 07:06:09 PM »

Quote from: p.smitty on April 19, 2015, 02:38:27 PM

Well.....I took some pictures of my 93 'S' this morning. If you like "Guzzi Porn", I'll take a few of a couple other bikes as I bring them out of hibernation.

Pat

http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/psmitty1/slideshow/93%201000S

Nice! ;-T

Cam3512 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 19, 2015, 07:19:10 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 19, 2015, 07:06:09 PM

Nice! ;-T

Agreed! I NEED one of these too...

Shorty · « **Reply #59 on:** April 19, 2015, 07:22:02 PM »

They went for about 5700 bucks here in Tulsa. No one wanted them. There is a famous ad offering 1000 bucks off the retail. Cycle World did a comparo with the 1000s, K75s and a third bike I can't remember. Maybe a Ducati. "This grandpa can really hustle" was one of the comments about the Guzzi, and top speeds of 140 mph were mentioned. After that article, and after they quit making them, the Guzzisti woke up and wanted them.

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Author Topic: 93 1000S (Read 25608 times)

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