Author Topic: V85 TT Merged Threadfest  (Read 506636 times)

Offline sliphorn

  • Hatchling
  • **
  • Posts: 193
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1830 on: July 09, 2019, 05:13:02 PM »
Yes mate.
There’s a fiendish plan afoot as we speak..!
-------

Ah yes. If you're gonna hatch a plan then there's only one kind worth doing. Looking forward to it.

====

Offline Tusayan

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1829
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1831 on: July 09, 2019, 05:49:35 PM »
If somebody wanted to do a color change, it appears to be a simple job on the V85TT: side covers, painted trim panels on each side of the tank and the front fender (mudguard) which looks to be two parts.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 05:54:43 PM by Tusayan »

Offline Trialsman

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • *
  • Posts: 394
  • Location: Pittsburgh
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1832 on: July 09, 2019, 08:39:17 PM »
I like the yellow /white, but the red is a little much.  Huzo that red is beautiful!  I may have to order the tank covers, side covers, and fender.  For now I have removed the front subframe holding the windscreen and light. I sand blasted it and powder coated it black.  I will do the same tomorrow to the rear bolt on section behind the seat.  It tones down the Ronald McDonald appearance and will look quite nice with the red frame. 
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 10:23:46 PM by Trialsman »
2010 FE570 Husaberg
2019 Alta Redshift EXR
2021 Moto Guzzi V85TT Centenario
2024 Stelvio V100
2025 Arctic Leopard Ex-800

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13817
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1833 on: July 09, 2019, 09:36:12 PM »
I like the yellow /white, but the red is a little much.  Huzo that red is beautiful!  I may have to order the tank covers, side covers, and fender.  For now I have removed the front subframe holding the windscreen and light. I sand blasted it and powder coated it black.  I will do the same tomorrow to the rear bolt on section behind the seat.  It tones done the Ronald McDonald appearance and will look quite nice with the red frame.
Good on you mate for dealing with the issue as you see it.
When I thought I was going to be stuck with a R Mc D one, I asked for a photo shop with the yellow made into Italian green and Beetle came up with the goods.
As follows..



Not too bloody bad either I reckon..
« Last Edit: July 10, 2019, 12:58:47 AM by Huzo »

Offline redhawk47

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 510
  • Traveler
  • Location: Northern Colorado
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1834 on: July 09, 2019, 10:48:06 PM »
Bugger you Derek (Glawster)
I just set myself back 8 weeks in my quest to own a V85.
I had first dibs on a red/white one but relinquished that opportunity to wait for one of the TWO red ones to come to Oz in October...  :sad:
Rosso Volcano apparently.
Still, what else was a bloke to do ?












It’ll go nicely with this..



Rosso Volcano? looks really nice. We are not getting that in the US, at least not this year.

Dan
2021 V85TT Centenario, 2016 V7II Stone, CSC TT250, Gone:KLR, CSC RX3,

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13817
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1835 on: July 10, 2019, 12:56:14 AM »
They are nicer looking in the flesh than I thought.
I made my mind up when I saw Derek’s (Glawster).

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13817
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1836 on: July 10, 2019, 12:59:49 AM »
Here’s Beetle’s effort..


Online PJPR01

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4066
  • Norge, Scura, Griso
  • Location: Houston, Texas
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1837 on: July 10, 2019, 01:24:32 PM »
Here’s Beetle’s effort..



That's not a bad looking bike by any means...still feels like too much red frame though...too Ducati like, but maybe that's the intention.

Perhaps if the back part of the frame were blacked out, leaving the front of the bike with the color it might look better...in my humble opinion.
Paul R
2021 Honda Goldwing Bagger Manual Cement Gray
2015 Red/Black Griso
2008 Silver Norge
2002 V11 Scura

Offline Glawster

  • Hatchling
  • **
  • Posts: 88
  • Location: Cheltenham, UK
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1838 on: July 11, 2019, 01:50:48 PM »

To be honest though, first gear is so low I'm preferring to set off in second.

I just took the trouble to check the gear ratios of the V85TT vs the V7 Sport (original)
                    V85TT        V7Sport
1st Gear        2.437         1.800
2nd Gear       1.777         1.263
Top                0.888        0.680

So basically the V7 Sport bottom gear is pretty much the same as V85TT second!
I'll continue to refine my technique of avoiding first gear on the V85.
It will be interesting to compare top speed when the V85 is run in.  I think it might not be so different between bikes.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2019, 01:51:35 PM by Glawster »
1955 Falcone Sport
1973 V7 Sport
2021 BMW R1250R
1955 Moto Parilla Turismo Special

Offline Knuckle Dragger

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 334
  • Location: South Is. of Oz.
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1839 on: July 20, 2019, 07:20:20 PM »
There's quite a few aftermarket exhaust available now.  Apart from the ridiculously expensive Arrow, there's Mistral, Agostini, GPR, QD, Remus & Zard (& prolly others by now too) offering accessory muffler solutions.  The Zard is one of the better (aesthetically & sonically in my opinion) alternatives.  Agostini, Mistral & QD also make decat midpipes to suit.

Of particular interest to me is another indigenous Tasmanian manufacturer of a select few exhausts for Triumphs, Royal Enfield, and now the V85.  So far just a decat link-pipe, but in my opinion, it's really all that's necessary to save a whole heap of unnecessary lard, get that lean-burning engine breathing more easily and cooler, free up a few hidden neddies & sort out the rather anaemic standard exhaust note too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQGs2W8gKOA
« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 07:59:58 PM by Knuckle Dragger »
Severus bastardis

Offline Trialsman

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • *
  • Posts: 394
  • Location: Pittsburgh
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1840 on: July 20, 2019, 07:51:25 PM »
I just put on the Agostini midpipe.  I started it in the garage and it sounded pretty much the same as OEM although it might change with some revs.
2010 FE570 Husaberg
2019 Alta Redshift EXR
2021 Moto Guzzi V85TT Centenario
2024 Stelvio V100
2025 Arctic Leopard Ex-800

Offline Zinfan

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 792
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1841 on: July 20, 2019, 11:59:38 PM »


Mine has arrived, love it!

Trailsman you need to change your signature.

Offline roadscum

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 602
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1842 on: July 21, 2019, 11:15:37 AM »
………
…..
..

Agostini, Mistral & QD also make decat midpipes to suit.

Of particular interest to me is an indigenous Tasmanian manufacturer of a select few exhausts for Triumphs, Royal Enfield, and now the V85.  So far just a decat link-pipe, but in my opinion, it's really all that's necessary to save a whole heap of unnecessary lard, get that lean-burning engine breathing more easily and cooler, free up a few hidden neddies & sort out the rather anaemic standard exhaust note too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQGs2W8gKOA

Thanks for the info.

Totally agree that a decat will do the trick and eliminate a source of heat. Here in SW Florida that's of major concern for me. Hope it does not require fuel remapping to run properly with the decat.

Paul

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing " - Socrates

Paul M. in SW Florida: 318 miles, 11 curves and not a Guzzi dealer in sight!

Offline tommy2cyl

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 538
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1843 on: July 21, 2019, 02:07:03 PM »
Picked up Wednesday from Cadre. Brought back in the van.  Two  rides so far.  First 40 miles just to get acquainted.  Today got a little more serious.  Proud to say that within 113 total miles the V 85 has seen gravel, light rain, wet sandy road with Amish buggy wheel marks, rough asphalt, and some genuine Amish horse droppings.  Handled it all just the way I hoped. Road in 92 degrees today and pretty impressed that not much heat on the knees.  More on the right for some reason but really no big deal when moving. Very happy about that, just tilt the knees out a little and no problem.  I could go on about all the positives but the bikes attributes have been pretty well covered at this point.  I will simply say that it is exactly what I was hoping it would be after 200 miles total.  Here is one observation that I think someone else commented on and would like some input.  The bike makes a whining sound when I deviate right or left off dead center, ie turning.  It does not do it below about 50 mph, but get up around 55-60 and above there is a discernible whine.  I thought at first it must be the tires, but now I am wondering if it is due to air flow over/around the screen.  I have the tall factory screen.  This is without any of the bags on.  I am going to experiment without any shield, and the short factory screen also.  It sounds almost like a cable whine.  I played with this for the better part of 3 hours on various surfaces and it seems the main factor is mph traveled.  I wear a Scorpion full face helmet.  Like I said, I think at least one other person has mentioned this.  Any thoughts?


Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13817
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1844 on: July 21, 2019, 03:27:46 PM »
I just took the trouble to check the gear ratios of the V85TT vs the V7 Sport (original)
                    V85TT        V7Sport
1st Gear        2.437         1.800
2nd Gear       1.777         1.263
Top                0.888        0.680

So basically the V7 Sport bottom gear is pretty much the same as V85TT second!
I'll continue to refine my technique of avoiding first gear on the V85.
It will be interesting to compare top speed when the V85 is run in.  I think it might not be so different between bikes.
I used a goodly percentage of my Norge’s performance to maintain the distance behind your V85 Derek.
Also I accept that you were not giving yours a real touch up (yet).
If I had to wager $1,000 on a first gear roll on through the ‘box up to 160 k’s between the two, I’m not sure which way I’d go...?

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13817
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1845 on: July 21, 2019, 03:31:17 PM »
Can one of you blokes who’ve picked up your V85’s, take off the bash plate and lower exhaust pipe covers and post a photo with the bike on the centrestand ?

Offline Zinfan

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 792
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1846 on: July 21, 2019, 03:57:36 PM »
Can one of you blokes who’ve picked up your V85’s, take off the bash plate and lower exhaust pipe covers and post a photo with the bike on the centrestand ?

I started to do that but the bolts holding the exhaust pipe covers have very shallow heads for the 4mm allen wrench to fit into and it seems whoever put my bike together stripped out one of then on the left side of the bike so I'm going to let the shop know and they can fix it during first service.  Sorry..

Offline Zinfan

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 792
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1847 on: July 21, 2019, 03:59:43 PM »
Riding home the other day in 75-85 degree weather the only heat issue I noticed was the area above my right ankle would sometimes get hot which surely would be from that cat just inboard of the foot peg.

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13817
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1848 on: July 21, 2019, 04:31:53 PM »
I started to do that but the bolts holding the exhaust pipe covers have very shallow heads for the 4mm allen wrench to fit into and it seems whoever put my bike together stripped out one of then on the left side of the bike so I'm going to let the shop know and they can fix it during first service.  Sorry..
I’d drill the heads off and get rid of the thing, it’s the only bit I don’t like. I’ll re fit it if I’m crossing the Himalayas.

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13817
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1849 on: July 21, 2019, 04:34:24 PM »
I started to do that but the bolts holding the exhaust pipe covers have very shallow heads for the 4mm allen wrench to fit into and it seems whoever put my bike together stripped out one of then on the left side of the bike so I'm going to let the shop know and they can fix it during first service.  Sorry..
Ok, thanks mate. :thumb  :thumb:
I could go and collect my red/white one now if I wanted to but I’ve decided to wait for the Glawster signature series red one.... :drool:


« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 04:37:39 PM by Huzo »

Offline Trialsman

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • *
  • Posts: 394
  • Location: Pittsburgh
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1850 on: July 21, 2019, 04:54:55 PM »
Sorry Huzzo my skidplate and sides have been off and are back on.  Those four shallow headed bolts need encouragement from a heat gun or you will strip the heads.  I happily found out today that lacquer thinner removes the yellow witness marks on all those bolts and does not harm any of the surfaces surrounding the painted bolts.
2010 FE570 Husaberg
2019 Alta Redshift EXR
2021 Moto Guzzi V85TT Centenario
2024 Stelvio V100
2025 Arctic Leopard Ex-800

Offline hauto

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 255
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1851 on: July 21, 2019, 05:02:51 PM »
That red is growing on me,but it's a non issue here in the states right now. Wouldn't be surprised they bring the red into the US  with the second run of production. I guess they will have to build other models also this year. Read somewhere that over 3500 TT have been built and shipped.I must say this will bring good things in the future.

Offline Knuckle Dragger

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 334
  • Location: South Is. of Oz.
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1852 on: July 21, 2019, 07:51:39 PM »
Ok, thanks mate. :thumb  :thumb:
I could go and collect my red/white one now if I wanted to but I’ve decided to wait for the Glawster signature series red one.... :drool:




Patience, cobber, patience!

All good things comes to thems that waits...... according to the Judeo/Christian guidebook anyway.

The Red 'un will not only be rarer, but I suspect "age" much better than the others too.  More class, less gimmickry.
Severus bastardis

Offline Knuckle Dragger

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 334
  • Location: South Is. of Oz.
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1853 on: July 21, 2019, 08:07:24 PM »
Picked up Wednesday from Cadre. Brought back in the van.  Two  rides so far.  First 40 miles just to get acquainted.  Today got a little more serious.  Proud to say that within 113 total miles the V 85 has seen gravel, light rain, wet sandy road with Amish buggy wheel marks, rough asphalt, and some genuine Amish horse droppings.  Handled it all just the way I hoped. Road in 92 degrees today and pretty impressed that not much heat on the knees.  More on the right for some reason but really no big deal when moving. Very happy about that, just tilt the knees out a little and no problem.  I could go on about all the positives but the bikes attributes have been pretty well covered at this point.  I will simply say that it is exactly what I was hoping it would be after 200 miles total.  Here is one observation that I think someone else commented on and would like some input.  The bike makes a whining sound when I deviate right or left off dead center, ie turning.  It does not do it below about 50 mph, but get up around 55-60 and above there is a discernible whine.  I thought at first it must be the tires, but now I am wondering if it is due to air flow over/around the screen.  I have the tall factory screen.  This is without any of the bags on.  I am going to experiment without any shield, and the short factory screen also.  It sounds almost like a cable whine.  I played with this for the better part of 3 hours on various surfaces and it seems the main factor is mph traveled.  I wear a Scorpion full face helmet.  Like I said, I think at least one other person has mentioned this.  Any thoughts?

What tyres?  Metzeler's Tourance or Michie's Anakies?  Some "crossover" tyres will whine/rumble/drone when off-centre due to the contrast between an (relatively) unbroken centreline and the deeper/bigger tread blocks that are introduced to the contact patch when leaning.
Severus bastardis

Offline alanp

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1756
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1854 on: July 21, 2019, 08:32:09 PM »
What tyres?  Metzeler's Tourance or Michie's Anakies?  Some "crossover" tyres will whine/rumble/drone when off-centre due to the contrast between an (relatively) unbroken centreline and the deeper/bigger tread blocks that are introduced to the contact patch when leaning.

If the bike has Anakees I would guess the sound you are hearing is the tires.  I had Anakees on a bike and they make a very noticeable whine that increases with speed and or lean angle.  They were decent tires, but the noisiest I have ever encountered by far.   
« Last Edit: July 21, 2019, 08:32:59 PM by alanp »
Niwot, Colorado
'22 Aprilia Tuareg - Black/Yellow
'16 V7II Stone - Black
Previous Guzzis
'07 Griso, '07 Norge, '03 California SS, '02 California SS, '02 V11 Lemans,  '83 Lemans III, '77 Lemans

Offline Zinfan

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • Posts: 792
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1855 on: July 21, 2019, 08:38:40 PM »
If the bike has Anakees I would guess the sound you are hearing is the tires.  I had Anakees on a bike and they make a very noticeable whine that increases with speed and or lean angle.  They were decent tires, but the noisiest I have ever encountered by far.

My bike has the Anakees and also whines like others have reported.

Offline tommy2cyl

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 538
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1856 on: July 21, 2019, 09:34:12 PM »
Thanks for the replies.  Yes, it has the Anakees.  Never really experienced this before, certainly not to this degree.  I had several sets of Shinko 705's on my VStrom 1000, and also on my Versys 650.  They were pretty quiet actually.  This is very noticeable on the V 85.  Like I said, below 50 it virtually goes away, but above that, the higher the speed the louder it gets.  I guess the good news is it is tires and not some weird air flow harmonics around the windscreen/front support architecture. No matter how good these tires might be, I will certainly be exploring other options.  Well, maybe not, I have been quite pleased with the Shinko's. 

Offline Glawster

  • Hatchling
  • **
  • Posts: 88
  • Location: Cheltenham, UK
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1857 on: July 22, 2019, 02:36:03 AM »
Yes, I'm pleased I got a red one.  I was thinking of the blue, but I saw a blue one last week and definitely glad I got red.  Seems to be the least popular colour though.
Last week I had the first service, a bit early with 862 miles on the clock.  And of course now with 926 miles, the service warning spanner is showing....

20190619_190233 by Derek Wardell, on Flickr
1955 Falcone Sport
1973 V7 Sport
2021 BMW R1250R
1955 Moto Parilla Turismo Special

Online blu guzz

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 1279
  • Loves to ride
  • Location: Northern Kentuycky
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1858 on: August 02, 2019, 06:06:58 AM »
Yesterday, I traded the Blu Guzz in for a yellow V85TT.  So, first of all, any of you that hankered for a blue 2015 1400 Custom with a lot of accessories, see Enzo at Cadre.
Next, I had first tried the bike with the mobile demo truck, then 2 weeks ago when Enzo got his demo.  The demo is a standard with the Torrance tires.  My only niggle at this point is I would have rather had those tires.  The Annakees seem to create a small vibe.  Maybe with a few miles they will settle down, only 80 miles so far.  It is not bad, but just there compared to the other tires.  If it persists, I will remedy that at the first tire change.
Other than that, the learning curve will take a few miles to get used to 7 inches less wheelbase and 200 less pounds.  But, I think I am up for the job.  More to come.
Blue Guzz

Offline Zoom Zoom

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10517
Re: V85 TT Merged Threadfest
« Reply #1859 on: August 02, 2019, 08:27:19 AM »
 :thumb:

Now you have to change your screen name... :evil:

John Henry


NEW WILDGUZZI PRODUCT - Moto Guzzi Door Mat
Receive donation credit with door mat purchase!
Advertise Here
 

***Wildguzzi Official Logo High Quality 5 Color Window Decals Back In Stock***
Shipping in USA Only. Awesome quality. Back by popular demand. All proceeds go back into the forum.
Best quality vinyl available today. Easy application.
Advertise Here