A Millennial’s Perspective

[nobleswood]

Pebra, thanks for posting that article, I always enjoy well written pieces like that one.

[Lannis]

I don't see where the article contradicted any of that?

Doesn't really contradict any of it.   Just a generic commentary to counter the usual generalizations ... !

Lannis

[HDGoose]

I think part of the problem in respect to jobs is the older guys working in their 70's. I work in a department with about 50 guys. 4 of them are well into their 70's with no intention to quit any time soon. They all could live comfortable without working. One of the guys made the statement that he was making more money than any other time in his life. He is making about 60K at work, another 10K for retirement and another 30K SSN. I understand it would be hard to walk away from 60K, but ... I think his problem is he doesn't know what else to do. He worked 2 jobs most his life and is now down to 40 hours (random OT, 20 hours a year). His 2 adult kids very seldom talk to him. I've known him for 35 years and cannot recall him taking a vacation other than a family reunion weekend back in the 80"s.

Myself? Barring a financial catastrophe, I plan to work another year or so. I'll be eligible for full retirement benefits. I'll walk away and not look back. I won't be able to make impulse purchases like now but I think I'll be OK.             

I know too many people who would not know what to do outside of work. Kinda sad really. Me...I would have that problem. Gotta get the house paid for, then I'll retire.

[Gliderjohn]

From HDGoose:

I know too many people who would not know what to do outside of work. Kinda sad really.

Never been able to figure those folk out. Been retired now for 2.5 years and an still not caught up on projects and am doing something outside of home about every day. Leaving in a bit to do Meals on Wheels with blowing snow and -2 windchill. They are going to need a hot meal today. Where is that shiver icon?
GliderJohn

[Darren Williams]

From HDGoose:
Never been able to figure those folk out. Been retired now for 2.5 years and an still not caught up on projects and am doing something outside of home about every day. Leaving in a bit to do Meals on Wheels with blowing snow and -2 windchill. They are going to need a hot meal today. Where is that shiver icon?
GliderJohn

 :1:  Keep those Karma points stacked high!

Good to remember there's still a bunch of you good people out there!

[HDGoose]

From HDGoose:
Never been able to figure those folk out. Been retired now for 2.5 years and an still not caught up on projects and am doing something outside of home about every day. Leaving in a bit to do Meals on Wheels with blowing snow and -2 windchill. They are going to need a hot meal today. Where is that shiver icon?
GliderJohn

I want to become more active in the VFW or American Legion. Need time to do that. I will be busy in 'retirement' with 'work' I'll choose.

[Lannis]

I want to become more active in the VFW or American Legion. Need time to do that. I will be busy in 'retirement' with 'work' I'll choose.

That's exactly the right thing to do ... just make sure you go into it with your hand ready to grab the brake real hard!   Once people know that you're retired, word will get around and it'll be "Ol' Gary" (or Lannis or John as the case may be) "is retired, HE'S got plenty of time and he's good at that stuff, ask him, he'll do it ..."

The principle of "If you want to get something done, give it to the busiest person you know of ..." applies even more in retirement than it does work.

With your shy and retiring personality and your unwillingness to let anyone know how you feel, you might be in real danger of this happening to you.   Or maybe NOT!   

Lannis

[Chuck in Indiana]

^^^^^ What Lannis sez. Trust me on this, Gary. It's an easy trap to get into. "Oh, I'm not working any more.. I'll have *plenty* of time to do that.."
BTDT.. don't fall for it. 

[john fish]

Book III of Odes, circa 20 BC, Horace:

    Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more
    worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more
    corrupt.

“We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.”
The Conduct of Young People, Hull Daily Mail, 1925

“It’s an irony, but so many of us are a cautious, nervous, conservative crew that some of the elders who five years ago feared that we might come trooping home full of foreign radical ideas are now afraid that the opposite might be too true, and that we could be lacking some of the old American gambling spirit and enterprise.”
The Care and Handling of a Heritage: One of the “scared-rabbit” generation reassures wild-eyed elders about future, Life, 1950

“A few [35-year-old friends] just now are leaving their parents’ nest. Many friends are getting married or having a baby for the first time. They aren’t switching occupations, because they have finally landed a ‘meaningful’ career – perhaps after a decade of hopscotching jobs in search of an identity. They’re doing the kinds of things our society used to expect from 25-year-olds.”
Not Ready for Middle Age at 35, Wall Street Journal, 1984

“Cinemas and motor cars were blamed for a flagging interest among young people in present-day politics by ex-Provost JK Rutherford… [He] said he had been told by people in different political parties that it was almost impossible to get an audience for political meetings. There were, of course, many distractions such as the cinema…”
Young People and Politics, Kirkintilloch Herald, 1938

“The Chairman alluding to the problem of young people and their English said his experience was that many did not seem able to express or convey to other people what they meant. They could not put their meaning into words, and found the same difficulty when it came to writing.”
Unable to Express Thoughts: Failing of Modern Young People, Gloucester Citizen, 1936

“Parents themselves were often the cause of many difficulties. They frequently failed in their obvious duty to teach self-control and discipline to their own children.”
Problems of Young People, Leeds Mercury, 1938

And then, there's this:

“And while [millennials] vary internally as much as any age cohort, I’ve generally been struck by the disconnect between the way they’re portrayed in the media and the way they go about their business. From what I’ve seen, they work harder than my cohort did, and for less payoff. (We could say the same about ourselves, relative to Boomers.) They’re more polite than I remember my own group being at that age. Yes, they’re always checking their phones, but so are we. Most of them are juggling jobs, classes, and family obligations, along with the relationship drama that comes with that age.”
In Defence of Millennials, Inside Higher Ed, 2017

“He felt that the people who were giving that kind of charge, that sweeping condemnation, were generally out of touch with the young people… ‘I think that if we knew the boys and girls — and I am thinking particularly tonight the young people of Britain — of those modern times, we should feel that after all they are very much like ourselves. They think very much like ourselves only their expression of their thinking is a little bit different.’”
Modern Young People: ‘A Glorious Lot’, Cornishman, 1934

[Sheepdog]

That's exactly the right thing to do ... just make sure you go into it with your hand ready to grab the brake real hard!   Once people know that you're retired, word will get around and it'll be "Ol' Gary" (or Lannis or John as the case may be) "is retired, HE'S got plenty of time and he's good at that stuff, ask him, he'll do it ..."

The principle of "If you want to get something done, give it to the busiest person you know of ..." applies even more in retirement than it does work.

With your shy and retiring personality and your unwillingness to let anyone know how you feel, you might be in real danger of this happening to you.   Or maybe NOT!   

Lannis

My dad used to say, � When you retire there is just as much work to do. However, you have far less help...”

[Chesterfield]

My experience with the quality of doctoring is a steady slide downhill, not to mention finding one with a European name is difficult.  I seek out Nurse Practitioners as they seem to still care