The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial

[LlewellynvN]

Hey Guys

I am struggling a bit to connect the software, currently I think the issue lies with my OBD2 and not the link up with the Bike (V7 Stone 1)

I am using a bbfly OBD2 which does boast the ftdi 232rl chip, ive used this product succesfully on my cars so it is operational.

the 3 point adapter is the one in the picture, I saw somewhere that is should be correct.

However using this setup, doesnt matter what I try I get the same result in the adapter test- just jumbled up letters or characters. The Voltage to the adapter is fine 12.7V, i can try different ports, bike connected or not, ignition on or off, just the cables, just the obd2 - I always get the same result unless the cable is disconnected from the pc of course.

Any ideas or just an incompatible OBD2 ?

[pauldaytona]

I don't think your bbfly is compatible. It does Can bus too, where the needed kkl is serial kkl only.
Just order the right adapter at lonelec

https://www.lonelec.com/product/guzzidiag-jpdiag-ducatidiag-tuneecu-kit-kl-1talia-3-pin-connection/

Hey Guys

I am struggling a bit to connect the software, currently I think the issue lies with my OBD2 and not the link up with the Bike (V7 Stone 1)

I am using a bbfly OBD2 which does boast the ftdi 232rl chip, ive used this product succesfully on my cars so it is operational.

the 3 point adapter is the one in the picture, I saw somewhere that is should be correct.

However using this setup, doesnt matter what I try I get the same result in the adapter test- just jumbled up letters or characters. The Voltage to the adapter is fine 12.7V, i can try different ports, bike connected or not, ignition on or off, just the cables, just the obd2 - I always get the same result unless the cable is disconnected from the pc of course.

Any ideas or just an incompatible OBD2 ?

[Barnapkin]

Related topic: If I wanted to compare two bin files, then how can that be done?  I want to learn what maps are in the bin files.  I have a stock and race ECU.  I'd like to download them to see what is different.  For example : It would be nice to know where I could richen up low rpm light engine loads to eliminate lean popping.

Thank you 

[guzzisteve]

For that you would use the Tunerpro software. Search for a thread on that software.

[John Warner]

 Just a quick 'Heads-Up' on the Injector test function in GD, on the 5AM Bikes.

 L/H Injector does not operate when selected, R/H side does when either side is selected.

Has caused me a bit of head-scratching a couple of times.

I contacted Bernd (GD Creator) to ask him about it, got this reply . . .

I never heard of this.
But I don't know how many people ever did these tests.
At the time of implementation it was working correctly, but I can not remember which bike it was.
I will have a look in the 5AM code to check this and ask a friends of mine with a Norge 2V to make a cross check.

Shortly after, he sent this . . .

Ups ... You found a bug.
I will fix it asap.

So there we go, soon we'll be able to test both sides independently.

[Huzo]

Just a quick 'Heads-Up' on the Injector test function in GD, on the 5AM Bikes.

 L/H Injector does not operate when selected, R/H side does when either side is selected.

Has caused me a bit of head-scratching a couple of times.

I contacted Bernd (GD Creator) to ask him about it, got this reply . . .

Shortly after, he sent this . . .

So there we go, soon we'll be able to test both sides independently.

Marvellous…

[Huzo]

Bumped for

[RickiBrown]

I can DOWNLOAD to my mac OS Catalina version 10.15.7
But I cannot open file.
Any clues working on my 2003 Lemans V11

[Tom H]

I don't have an answer for you except to make sure your getting the Mac version of GD. Then you might just have to google it for your Mac version to get it to work.

Hopefully someone will be here shortly with some better help!

Tom

[SemperVee]

I can DOWNLOAD to my mac OS Catalina version 10.15.7
But I cannot open file.
Any clues working on my 2003 Lemans V11

I use the same on my Macbook with OS Catalina.   MAKE sure you have the correct Read and Write files.  I would have them open on the desk top.  I am assuming you have the correct ECM selected also?

[GuzziOrDeath]

For MacOS, GuzziDiag tools must be in the Application folder, and you must set the correct permissions. Have a look at this video. It may help.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWSySXfR17c


Alternatively, use GuzziDiag v0.46 for Mac.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xvp9m3tc803t9y/GuzziDiag_V0.46.app.zip?dl=0

[johnwesley]

I have a 09 vintage that runs great and is easy to start unless it gets cold outside. any time it gets below about 40 degrees it doesn't want to start. If I open the fast idle it won't start. if I leave the fast idle lever closed it will eventually start. once started then I can use the fast idle to get rpms up until its warm. Does anyone have a map that address this issue?

[jrt]

I have a 09 vintage that runs great and is easy to start unless it gets cold outside. any time it gets below about 40 degrees it doesn't want to start. If I open the fast idle it won't start. if I leave the fast idle lever closed it will eventually start. once started then I can use the fast idle to get rpms up until its warm. Does anyone have a map that address this issue?

I can't help with a map, but my wife's Breva used to do this as well.  My cheap fix was to button the starter with the throttle open some and after one/two turnovers let the throttle snap shut.  Started every time that way.

[HarveyMushman]

I have a 09 vintage that runs great and is easy to start unless it gets cold outside. any time it gets below about 40 degrees it doesn't want to start. If I open the fast idle it won't start. if I leave the fast idle lever closed it will eventually start. once started then I can use the fast idle to get rpms up until its warm. Does anyone have a map that address this issue?

Beetle's map helps, and noticeably improves mid-range performance.

[HarveyMushman]

I "upgraded" my little garage Lenovo to Windows 11 and now GuzziDiag doesn't work. When I open v.60 (with no cables attached) no COM port is listed--the dropdown list is empty. If I open GuzziDiag with cables attached I sometimes get a port but GD won't connect to the ECU--it waits a few seconds and tells me to switch off the ignition. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling (GuzziDiag and Windows 11), multiple re-starts, etc. I downloaded and extracted the drivers from the page linked on the GD page.

Before I revert back to Windows 10 is there something I'm missing?

[GuzziOrDeath]

Open Device Manager. Connect the OBD USB cable. Confirm a COM port appears, and if so what number. If nothing happens, try another USB port.

Delete the GuzziDiag .ini file, then open GuzziDiag and check the connection settings. Select the port previously noted.

Try to connect.

[HarveyMushman]

Open Device Manager. Connect the OBD USB cable. Confirm a COM port appears, and if so what number. If nothing happens, try another USB port.

Delete the GuzziDiag .ini file, then open GuzziDiag and check the connection settings. Select the port previously noted.

Try to connect.

That worked. Connected and uploaded a new map to the Stelvio. Thank you.

[KonaDoc]

Aloha!

Having been unable to install GuzziDiag on an M2 Mac, I drug an old Toshiba Windows XP laptop out of the closet. I have received the Lonelec cables and was able to connect them to my 2017 V7III Stone. I can open GuzziDiag, but it does not connect to the bike.

I ran Setup_CDM21228, but the Wizard cannot find any device drivers.

Also, with the Lonelec cable plugged into a USB port, "FT230X Basic UART" shows up, not at a COM port, but as "Other Devices".

I feel like I am so close, but yet so far. I'm sure I'm missing something pretty basic, but I've been out of the Windoze scene for the past decade.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Mahalo!

KonaDoc

[jrt]

Konadoc-  wow, you have two very different genre's of computing.

I don't have an answer for you- only some thoughts.  Perhaps you could deinstall GuzziDiag and install an older version that might be compatible with Windows XP?

When I installed on my throw-away, generic Lenovo laptop, and first connected (USB), GuzziDiag suggested COM port 3.  Turns out COM port 4 works, not 3.  I am running Windows 10 though.  Access connection under 'preferences'.  There are very few options for changing preferences. 
or
Could you get a cheap, refurbished laptop running Windows 10?  I bought one from MicroCenter for 150 bucks.  Works great.  Not for actual work, but it is a tool for connecting and that's about it. 

[DoubleGuzzi]

Rather than running antiquated Windoze XP, try Linux mint (MATE version). You can even trial it, albeit slowly, from an USB stick. If sufficient disc space, you could then install alongside Win XP.
No messing about with drivers, just pay attention to the GD tips.

[KonaDoc]

Thanks jrt.

In Guzzi Diag Preferences, there are no choices offered to me. Just a blank space. In Control Panel, I see the "Ports (COM & LPT) listing, but beneath it, there is only "ECP Printer Port (LPT1)". As I was falling asleep last night, I was wondering whether I could assign a COM Port to a USB Device. Apparently, I can. (Control Panel shows the Lonelec device as "Other Devices: FT230X Basic UART.) I have not yet had a chance to try this.

The wife has a Windows 11 desktop that I can easily move out to the garage if the XP machine doesn't work. 

I haven't used Windows since I retired 5+ years ago. I'd rather not go back there if I can.

Mahalo!

doc

[Bulldog9]

I only have Windows 10 Machines, but have been using GD since 2015. Windows and GD has been updated since then, cant remember which versions I started on, but I have found that GD will use different Ports at different times, not sure why. I think I am on V4.7 of GD or something like that.

Assuming your computer installs the correct drivers for the cables, if GD doesn't connect, try a different COM Port. Easy to access, open GD, click File>Preferences and try a different Port.

If you still can't get it to work, I'd run Windows Update and go into Device Driver, click on COM PORTS and right click to check for driver updates while the cables are connected.  I haven't and don't plan to go to W11 as long as my current laptops continue to function. They are too old to update to W11 anyway. I have tried many times to help friends with Apple products, and have not been successful. Buncha Devilry that stuff is.............

Some random thoughts.
1. Ensure your Battery is fully charged, and you connect the 12V alligator clip to voltage. I use the + lug of my battery tender.
2. Hook up all cables to motorcycle BEFORE plugging in the USB lead to the computer
3. Make sure the laptop is secure and not precariously balanced.
4. Make sure your handlebar Kill switch is set to RUN, not OFF
5. Once all of the above is complete Click FILE > PREFERENCES, under the General Tab, select your Language and Model (or as close as you can get), and COM Port. I leave all the boxes unchecked in the EXTRAS menu. You can designate a specific folder location for backups, etc. It will default to the folder you started it in. I use a separate folder for each motorcycle and copy the GD program into that folder. This way any backups, diag logs, maps, etc stay with THAT bike.

6. Once all is plugged in, and selected cose and RE-START GD, then turn on Ignition Key, select FILE > CONNECT. If it doesn't work, go back to Preferences and try a different COM PORT.

I love GD, is a great product and tool.

[KonaDoc]

Thanks for you insight Bulldog9!

It appears that I have at least two issues:

1) I am of the understanding that I need CDM21228 to run GD on a Windows XP machine. However, when I run CDM21228_setup, it searches endlessly for a device driver. I have no idea what driver it is looking for or where to find it. I had assumed that the driver would be self-extracting when I ran the setup program, but no. Reading through the GD threads, I haven't found an answer. With a 20+ year old XP machine, there is no way I'm hooking it up to the Internet.

2) When I run GD and go to FILE > PREFERENCES > COM PORT, there are no options to choose from. The spaces are all blank. Additionally, if I go to Device Manager and click on PORTS(COM&LPT), there are no COM ports listed. I only see "ECP Printer Port (LPT1)". Also, I have the Lonelec connected to a USB port, but in Device Manager it shows up only as "Other Devices: FT230X Basic UART.)".

It's been a LONG time since I dove into the guts of a Windows machine. I didn't like it then, and I'm remembering now the reasoning for it.

If I could get GD to see the Lonelec connector, I would be a much happier camper.

Thanks for your input! Appreciated!

doc

[Moparnut72]

I used to be pretty good with computers and windows but that was years ago when I was working. IT hated me because I did things that they thought was their exclusive territory. The tech has moved on, I haven't. I have used Android tablets for quite awhile because I got tired of Windows laptops slowing down to a crawl. I recently got a reconditioned Acer Chromebook. It seems like a combination of the two. Has anyone used one of these with GD? I don't need to use GD but if I do can I? I have all the cables.
kk

[DoubleGuzzi]

I've worked in IT in several roles, since the '80s, so I know nothing. 

[michaell32]

My laptop is a windows 10 but I didn't have any luck with a lonelec cable.  I used a generic one off amazon where the driver was on a cd and it worked.

[KonaDoc]

Well, I was able to get DG connected (finally) with the wife's Windows 11 desktop. After dealing with Code 10 faults.

But no bueno with my Windows XP laptop. I'm now stuck at a Code 39 fault, which I can't seem to clear.

I was able to identify 2 faults with DG, which I was able to clear. I was expecting to find a lot more, and only the P1607 came back.

But still no start. (The original problem). So it looks like I'm back to square one with troubleshooting the no-start issue. Dang!

doc

[Vagrant]

Where did you post the original problem. These are really pretty simple bikes with few issues.

[Bulldog9]

Well, I was able to get DG connected (finally) with the wife's Windows 11 desktop. After dealing with Code 10 faults.

But no bueno with my Windows XP laptop. I'm now stuck at a Code 39 fault, which I can't seem to clear.

I was able to identify 2 faults with DG, which I was able to clear. I was expecting to find a lot more, and only the P1607 came back.

But still no start. (The original problem). So it looks like I'm back to square one with troubleshooting the no-start issue. Dang!

doc

Doc, IIRC there is a code on the V7II that doesn't clear. It's been a while since I've hooked GD up, but I think that was it.

[Chelmi_OuestCoast]

Quick question about Guzzidiag.

I saw that it was possible to display the lambda sensor voltage and also the lambda integrator.

I was wondering if the lambda integrator only corresponds to lambda - λ, it seems to correspond, if not what is it?

Is there also a way to display the AFR? even if it's easy to calculate.

Thanks