The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial

[Speedysheep]

Downloaded Guzzidiag to my Mac to reset the TPS on my V85 after installing the heated grips.  When I open the application it dies immediately.  This is on an old MacBook Air running High Sierra.  Tried it on a newer MacBook Pro with the same result.

[pete roper]

There is no TPS function to reset with the 7SM system. You do 'Handle' and 'Throttle' self learning which is the calibration for the demand sensor but if the system is working as it should just leave it alone.

[Speedysheep]

Guzzi’s instructions for the grip install say to reset the TPS, as the demand sensor is replaced with the grips.  I’ll see how it runs without the reset.
Was really just wondering if there’s an issue with the Mac version of GuzziDiag.  I can’t get it to run on either my personal or work laptop.

[pete roper]

I believe this is a fairly common issue with Macs. Dunno what the solution is, sorry.

If you're installing the grips then doing the retraining is probably a good idea.

[beetle]

For Mac, you need to put GuzziDiag in the applications folder.

[Speedysheep]

Thanks, Beetle.  That did it.

[Speedysheep]

Unfortunately, I’m still not feeling the love from GuzziDiag.  I get a blue light on the Loneloc cable, GuzziDiag shows a comm port, but it just won’t connect.  Not sure what the issue is.

[beetle]

Have you installed the drivers?

OSX 10.9 and higher drivers:

http://griso.org/FTDIUSBSerialDriver_v2_4_2.dmg

OSX 10.3 a 10.8 drivers:

http://griso.org/FTDIUSBSerialDriver_v2_2_18.dmg

[Speedysheep]

Thanks, Beetle.   I’ll try that tomorrow.

[SIR REAL ED]

Have you installed the drivers?

OSX 10.9 and higher drivers:

http://griso.org/FTDIUSBSerialDriver_v2_4_2.dmg

OSX 10.3 a 10.8 drivers:

http://griso.org/FTDIUSBSerialDriver_v2_2_18.dmg

for a Mac, are the drivers also installed in the applications folder?

on a windows machine, should all the downloaded software be installed in the same folder?

Thanks in advance!

[beetle]

MacOS installs the drivers wherever MacOS installs that stuff. You simply open the DMG file that you downloaded, and run the PKG installer by clicking on the file.


For Windows, GuzziDiag will run from anywhere. It doesn't need to be "installed". I usually put them all in the one folder for convenience.

[beard]

The program needs write access to the directory.
Windows: don't copy them below c:\Programms

Best: make a new folder below the home directory

This is valid for all OS.

[MMRanch]

First of all , "Thank you fellers for all this input" 

So , I had an opportunity to hook-up my V-9 to my computer today for the first time .   I was able to save a copy of my map .   

All went good till , it came time to pick a bike ... mine wasn't listed ?   in fact neither of my bikes were listed the V-7II or the V-9 .   

 So ... Where did I go wrong ? 



 

[beetle]

You should select V7 Stone or V7 Special.  For all intents & purposes, ECU-identical to the V9 & V7III.

[MMRanch]

 

Beetle , you are so appreciated !     If we are ever at the same place at the same time , your going to have to let me buy you lunch . 

My V-9 (Pearl) currently has no problems .   

Will the Guzzi Diag. "Program" a spare Key ?   I have one that came from "Keys for your Ride" , its Pre-Cut and is Chipped for the V-9.  I can use it for a spare now ... but I have to enter my code every time and a light flashes the entire time.
   

[beetle]

No, it can’t. The new key will need to be programmed by a dealer. I’m pretty sure you can’t program it via the dash like some other models.

[GonzoB]

I'm just about to make my own connector cable for my '07 Breva 750. I think these are the connections, can anyone confirm?

Diag connector:
Guzzi Red wire - from ECU pin 10 - L-line - to OBD2 pin 15
Guzzi Brown wire - from ECU pin 9 - K-line - to OBD2 pin 7
Guzzi Blue wire - Ground - to OBD2 pin 4 and 5

Separate:
Guzzi +12V - to OBD2 pin 16

Is a separate ground wire needed from the battery, or is the Blue wire sufficient?

Thanks

Gonzo

[GonzoB]

...And can anyone confirm if the ELM327 v1.5a works with GuzziDiag? I know the unit works, as I've used it with Ubuntu and my Hyundai, but I want to know if there's something special about GuzziDiag that might make it not work.

Thanks in advance...

Gonzo

[beetle]

Diag connector:
Guzzi Red wire - from ECU pin 10 - L-line - to OBD2 pin 15
Guzzi Brown wire - from ECU pin 9 - K-line - to OBD2 pin 7
Guzzi Blue wire - Ground - to OBD2 pin 4 and 5

Separate:
Guzzi +12V - to OBD2 pin 16

Is a separate ground wire needed from the battery, or is the Blue wire sufficient?

Looks right. No separate ground required.

And can anyone confirm if the ELM327 v1.5a works with GuzziDiag? I know the unit works, as I've used it with Ubuntu and my Hyundai, but I want to know if there's something special about GuzziDiag that might make it not work.

No, it won't. 

[GonzoB]

Thanks Beetle.

Will have to get a different one.

Gonzo

[beetle]

You can't use a dongle. Needs to be a hard serial connection.

[GonzoB]

Not sure what you mean by "hard serial". I was going to get a USB to OBD2 adapter with the built-in serial chip (as discussed in this tutorial). Do you mean don't get a wireless one?

Gonzo

[beetle]

Do you mean don't get a wireless one?

Yes. Sorry for any confusion.

[bigbikerrick]

I have a 2017 Griso ,and the original owner that I got it from had a Beetle map installed. The bike runs great, but I was wondering, if I need to take it to the dealer for warranty work, should I take out the beetle map before taking the bike in? I am wondering if they would make issue, or make a note on their computers that would affect my warranty? Would they be able to tell my bike has a beetle map?
  Another question, If needed, where would I get the "stock map" from to load it into the bike's ecu?
Thanks
Rick.

[beetle]

Yes. They can tell if they bother to look. There's a way around it, however. The Writer has two text boxes where you can enter the date and tester values. The Writer "stamps" the map with these values. You can use a date more suited to the manufacture date, and a 'tester' name that won't alert them. The PO may or may not have done this when loading the map. If you connect with GuzziDiag, the values will be listed in the 'information' box.

I can send you a factory map, but you will have the same issue, unless you enter a date more representative of the bikes manufacture, and a 'tester' name that won't give away your terrible secret.

[jacksonracingcomau]

 

Yes. They can tell if they bother to look. There's a way around it, however. The Writer has two text boxes where you can enter the date and tester values. The Writer "stamps" the map with these values. You can use a date more suited to the manufacture date, and a 'tester' name that won't alert them. The PO may or may not have done this when loading the map. If you connect with GuzziDiag, the values will be listed in the 'information' box.

I can send you a factory map, but you will have the same issue, unless you enter a date more representative of the bikes manufacture, and a 'tester' name that won't give away your terrible secret.

Kin suave

[bigbikerrick]

Yes. They can tell if they bother to look. There's a way around it, however. The Writer has two text boxes where you can enter the date and tester values. The Writer "stamps" the map with these values. You can use a date more suited to the manufacture date, and a 'tester' name that won't alert them. The PO may or may not have done this when loading the map. If you connect with GuzziDiag, the values will be listed in the 'information' box.

I can send you a factory map, but you will have the same issue, unless you enter a date more representative of the bikes manufacture, and a 'tester' name that won't give away your terrible secret.

Thats awesome, Beetle! Its always good to have an "Ace in the hole"  in case the situation arises. I already have a "tester" "name ready to go. how does Riccardo Sarducci sound?
Rick.

[beetle]

  

Tee hee! I don’t think that’ll hold water. For Griso’s, I suggest “salaprovag” (without the quotes, of course).

[GonzoB]

I read the tutorial, received my Lonelec device and connectors, plugged them into the bike and my Linux 64 laptop and .... it all works first time!

OK, so now what do I do with this?
What should I tweak or check on my 07 Breva 750 (completely stock incl exhausts)?
Is there a better map?

Gonzo

[Rapier]

Please pardon the ignorance...
I am an IT guy so the instructions seem right as rain. But I am new to Guzzi and not much of a gear head (willing to learn anything).

What I am wondering is the scope of the various software.
I understand that if you are looking to solve an issue (throttle / idle / ECU) or have swapped to a new exhaust this can become important. What other information will this setup give me? Is a full diagnostics suite that can assist in running down other issues?

Thanks for the patience!