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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #270 on: April 30, 2020, 08:46:54 AM »
Beetle knows what he's doing. The update V7/Nevad is what I was installing with the Axone when the ECU went bad.
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #271 on: April 30, 2020, 06:02:38 PM »
The 3L09BN22 & 3L10BN22 maps have different ECU model numbers embedded in the file. I think erring on the side of caution is prudent.


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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #272 on: May 05, 2020, 10:09:31 PM »
I reset an error code !!!

Over the weekend I went to Two Wheels of Suches on the V-9 .   At one point I was on a dirt Forrest Trail with another guy.   We were just Idling in 1st gear trying not to stir-up a dust ball and get the bikes dirty.
I mean 1st gear going down hill for a long time ... enough for the motor to heat up and the CHECK ENGINE light to come on.   It stayed on till I hooked it to my computer today .  :grin:
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Now I have a question :   Can I get the GuzziDiag program on my Android phone ?  I've got the V-7II and a V-9 .
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #273 on: May 05, 2020, 10:33:33 PM »
Now I have a question :   Can I get the GuzziDiag program on my Android phone ?  I've got the V-7II and a V-9 .

No.  But somebody might be clever enough to produce one.  Then we'll all whine how much it's going to cost.

In the interim, a small PC like a microsoft surface pro works fine.

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #274 on: May 06, 2020, 03:29:38 PM »
Beetle, Thanks for your dedication!!
I'll be trying to install onto the ancient Panasonic Toughbook that also runs my software for the P8 computer of my '98 CaliEV based custom "1100S." We will see if it has enough processor and memory to handle Guzzidiag.

Any tips on installing from a thumb drive (I never connect the Toughbook to the internet- it's got other software that will try to auto-update and thus ruin)? I'll download the files to my daily use Mac, load onto the Windows-formatted thumb drive, then open on the Toughbook. I could also download to my Win10 machine at work if there's a problem with passing the downloads through a Mac.

Many thanks again!
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #275 on: May 06, 2020, 04:27:23 PM »
All the GuzziDiag downloads are zipped, so no special technique required. Just download & copy.

Simples!

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #276 on: May 07, 2020, 01:46:32 AM »
Beetle, could you please provide the link to the WinXP drivers?

As soon as I got home and dug out the old Toughbook, I saw it's running XP. Which I believe was required to run the Weber-Marelli diagnostic software for the P8 computers in my old EV's. THAT's why it shall not connect to the internet: XP is so vulnerable, and only Satan knows what auto-updaters Microsoft might have lurking that would spell the end for the old W-M software, not that it does much anyway.

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #277 on: May 08, 2020, 02:53:39 AM »
Hello guys,
I did reflash my 1400 California Custom (slight enrich base maps). After reflash I did Reset autolearning parmeters, then Handle and Throttle self learning. Bike runs great, but bellow 3000 rpm there is problem. Sometimes throttle hanging about 3000 rpm. I made a video (note that hot starting issue is my common problem :D)
I tried reflash stock maps, problem still occur.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4JK4MxizoU

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #278 on: May 08, 2020, 12:04:52 PM »
Hi All,

I have an ’03 V11 Lemans and have embarked on learning to use Guzzidiag.   I would be grateful for any comments or thoughts you may have on the following.

-   The ECM downloaded bin file is 64kb and it took about 10 minutes to download…..does the amount of time and file size sound reasonable?

-   The throttle voltage is 0.412v (Guzzidiag), eng off & cold.  TPS was previously set to 157mv.  Does 0.412 Throt V. sound reasonable?

-   The CO Trimm is -15 but cannot adjust until I get the timing sensor leak resolved & get to 60°C.

-   I see where many here set their valves to 0.15mm Int & 0.20mm Exh.  I’m interested the rationale behind increasing the valve clearance since
        the shop manual indicates 0.1mm/0.15mm…mistake?



Thank you,

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #279 on: May 08, 2020, 05:20:31 PM »

-   The ECM downloaded bin file is 64kb and it took about 10 minutes to download…..does the amount of time and file size sound reasonable?


Yes, that file size is correct. Also "yes" on the time.


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-   The throttle voltage is 0.412v (Guzzidiag), eng off & cold.  TPS was previously set to 157mv.  Does 0.412 Throt V. sound reasonable?


Do not use GuzziDiag to set the TPS voltage. The displayed resolution is good enough. You can, however, use the throttle angle.



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-   I see where many here set their valves to 0.15mm Int & 0.20mm Exh.  I’m interested the rationale behind increasing the valve clearance since
        the shop manual indicates 0.1mm/0.15mm…mistake?


No. Use 0.1 & 0.15.

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #280 on: May 09, 2020, 07:21:20 AM »
Hi Beetle,

Thanks for the response! 

I'll leave valve clearances at OEM specs and I set the TPS to 157mv with a VOM. 

Thanks again,

Art
« Last Edit: May 09, 2020, 07:28:05 AM by guzziart »
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #281 on: May 19, 2020, 05:11:05 PM »
Hi Beetle,

I have some questions that I was hoping you might be able to answer for me.  I set the CO trimm from -15 to zero because of something I read at the V11 Lemans Forum.  Unfortunately when I was setting the CO I didn't realize I could toggle the settings with the engine running...enough so I could hear the impact of my changes.  I guess I'll be checking that again.

Anyway, while reading the tutorial again, I'm confused about Reset Auto Learning Parameters and  Throttle Self Learning.  Should I have performed these "learning" steps before doing the CO Trimm?

Also, do these look relatively "normal"? 





Thanks again,

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #282 on: May 19, 2020, 06:41:40 PM »
The 15M doesn't have autolearning. Throttle self-learning is for single throttle body V7 & V9 bikes. You have nothing to reset on a 15M.



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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #283 on: May 30, 2020, 09:06:21 PM »
BIG PROBLEM!!!

Ok, I got my cables from Lonelec yesterday and downloaded the apps from griso.org, bought V7III Factory exhaust map.
 I installed the drivers from the beetle instructions download and connected up the cables to my Windows surface 1 running windows 10. All good device recognized.
I downloaded the factory map from the bike with no issues. Yay! Now for the problem part:
I left it all connected exactly as is. I use the EC writer program to load the unzipped V7III factory exhaust map. Connected OK, took awhile to write and a box popped up at the end, said Something went wrong, try again. Switch off ignition. closed program and tried again, this time when I turned the ignition on got  an ALARM and redlight on Speedo. Tried to load it again a few times and then tried the factory back in there, no dice keeps failing and I have this hard alarm on speedo. Did anyone else have this problem? Right now I have a bricked bike!



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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #284 on: May 30, 2020, 09:17:50 PM »
I've only seen one bricked MIUG3. That was due to user error. You seem to have done everything correctly, so something has gone wrong with communication. Battery OK?

I would suggest disconnecting the dash, attaching a battery tender, and try reflashing the stock map.




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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #285 on: May 30, 2020, 09:40:53 PM »
The battery is ok, I had just gone around the block with it about 10 mins before. I sent you a separate email with the logs. I will connect up the tender and disconnect the gauges and try it again
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #286 on: May 30, 2020, 11:34:43 PM »
Welp, all fixed now. I ended up trying another laptop an older Dell I have, in place of the MS Surface pro 1. Loaded up the drivers for the cable, rebooted, installed the programs, wrote the factory map back in Success! and it all came back to normal.  SO I wrote in the beetle map, and that was successful too. I had reloaded the drivers, rebooted, reextracted the programs and the beetle map, moved the maps to a different filesystem, to no avail. Read works just fine with the Surface, but not write. Go figure.
So a bit of excitement on a warm Florida Saturday night. Will do a short ride tomorrow and see how she does. Lessons learned:

1. The error shown is there when the reading or writing is going on. When it finishes successfully, you get the reset and needle bounce on the gauges and it all lights up like normal. If something goes wrong the thing will be stuck like that. But it is recoverable in that state.
2. Don't use a 7 year old MS surface that has been upgraded to Win10 (had 8 on it when I won it). I have used the thing with a number of USB to serial devices for serial connections to all kinds of devices without issue. Gremlins, it seems.

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #287 on: May 31, 2020, 02:01:23 AM »
I've had no problems with my Microsoft Surface Pro 1.  And yes, it originally came with windows 8.

There's gotta be another reason.

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #288 on: June 05, 2020, 04:37:30 PM »
Where can I find previous versions of GuzziDiag?

I also use Macs, and can confirm that version 0.47 doesn't work with the latest OSX (currently 10.15). I'm aware of Apple's doofy right-click process for opening certain programs, and this program simply doesn't want to open. Also--the website says 0.48, but the download is 0.47, not sure why.
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #289 on: June 05, 2020, 05:38:35 PM »
Are there any v9 maps, I didn’t see any on the web site?
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #290 on: June 05, 2020, 07:11:56 PM »
Are there any v9 maps, I didn’t see any on the web site?



Yes. Which website?

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #291 on: June 05, 2020, 07:34:17 PM »
Where can I find previous versions of GuzziDiag?


I'm sourcing a copy of 0.46 for MacOS. I'll PM you once I've got it.



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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #292 on: June 06, 2020, 08:22:10 AM »
Where can I find previous versions of GuzziDiag?

I also use Macs, and can confirm that version 0.47 doesn't work with the latest OSX (currently 10.15). I'm aware of Apple's doofy right-click process for opening certain programs, and this program simply doesn't want to open. Also--the website says 0.48, but the download is 0.47, not sure why.
FWIW, I just successfully opened Guzzidiag 0.47 on my MacBook Pro running MacOS 10.15.5 (19F101), the latest developer beta.
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #293 on: June 06, 2020, 08:57:38 AM »
FWIW, I just successfully opened Guzzidiag 0.47 on my MacBook Pro running MacOS 10.15.5 (19F101), the latest developer beta.

Nice. Yeah, I’m currently using 10.15.4, and assume Sir Real Ed is too or an even earlier version.
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #294 on: June 06, 2020, 03:04:14 PM »
Where can I find previous versions of GuzziDiag?

I also use Macs, and can confirm that version 0.47 doesn't work with the latest OSX (currently 10.15). I'm aware of Apple's doofy right-click process for opening certain programs, and this program simply doesn't want to open. Also--the website says 0.48, but the download is 0.47, not sure why.

So- my disclaimer is that I have not installed or worked with GuzziDiag.  But I have some other programs that are pretty old and don't run on the latest MacOS.  For one of them, I can get it to boot and run by navigating to the program, right click and 'show package contents', go 'Contents -->MacOS', then right click on the program and select 'open with Terminal'.  It will also open a terminal window, but just ignore it.
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #295 on: June 06, 2020, 06:10:46 PM »
Anyone running MacOS Catalina, you can download GuzziDiag V0.46 from my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gcdm6uwd8jei4hr/GuzziDiag_V0.46.app.zip?dl=0

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #296 on: June 20, 2020, 06:14:14 PM »
I just finished the install of one of Mark's maps on my 2001 Jackal/Bassa 1100 and am pleased to advise all that it was a home run.  My bike is stock except I removed the stock pipes, got some aftermarket cans of the appropriate head pipe diameter and length, then removed the baffles but left the end caps in place. I still have the stock colostomy bag/crossover pipe so the sound is just about where I want it to be.


The installation went flawlessly and the bike runs absolutely superbly. I am so pleased with the newfound sound and performance enhancements.  The torque delivery is so smooth all the way to red line, and there are no more pops, gurgles or hisses on tip in or off-throttle conditions.  Mark is a genius, a gentleman and my new best friend. Thanks again.

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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #297 on: June 20, 2020, 06:21:01 PM »
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #298 on: June 27, 2020, 09:42:39 AM »
Any stock V7III folks out there flash Mark's map recently? What can I expect?

Edit: And while I'm here I should ask:

I get that you do a throttle self learn but should I also do a TPS reset first on V7III or just verify that the value is .9-1.0 and only reset if it's outside this range?

P.S. Hope I'm asking the right questions! Thanks
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Re: The New Improved GuzziDiag Tutorial
« Reply #299 on: June 27, 2020, 07:07:05 PM »

There's no TPS reset for the V7. The throttle self-learning is the V7 equivalent of a TPS reset. Throttle value for a V7-III should be 0.8 - 1.0.

Don't forget to reset the autolearning parameters as well.

 

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